Sorry, but I am sooooo confused...lol. What patch thing are you talking about? I have the latest MSN (7.0, because I don't know enough to try 7.5 beta) and just downloaded the Messenger Plus today. Everyone I chat with is using the add feature and some of them know less about computers than I do, but it seems to work for them. It's getting pretty frustrating. Should I delete all MSN from my computer and try downloading it all from scratch to see if that works (REALLY hate that option...lol) or the lesser of the 2 evils - click some magic button to sort this out. Thanks for being so calm with the newbie!