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Whats the situation in other countries on murder?

In Australia, mandatory sentencing dictates a compulsary LIFE sentence for ALL convicted of any murder.

Someone said that the life sentence in Australia means only 25 years, not the rest of your life (I sound like a Powerball ad), which is where the problem is IMO.



Yeah i say it in an extensive post in this thread somewhere near the start of it.


The legeslation in NSW  is as follows:

· Section 19A Crimes Act:
· (1) A person who commits the crime of murder is liable to imprisonment for life.
· (2) A person sentenced to imprisonment for life for the crime of murder is to serve that sentence for the term of the person's natural life.
· (3) Nothing in this section affects the operation of s.21(1) of the Crimes (Sentencing Procedure) Act 1999

Subsection 1: This basically says that if you murder somebody you can get life imprisonment

Subsetion 2: This section was added in the Crimes Amendment (Sentencing proceedures) Act (NSW). It says that the punishment of Life imprisionment MEANS life imprisonment.

Subsection 3: This acts as a judical safeguard. This recgnises that not all crimes are the same, some murders may be worse than others. It protects the discretion of a judge to weigh up the facts of the case and impose a sentence within the sentencing guidelines. (This is what s21 of that Act refers to). Therefore Subsection 3 alows a judge to impose a life sentence that is not in fact a natural life sentence. That is; the judge may impose the 25 year definition of life, and impose a parole period.

It gives the judge discretion. But also says that those convicted of a murder that posseses certain characteristics should get life imprisonment (that is defined within the crimes Act) i.e after taking mitigating factors into account.

The common law precedents for this are:

Ibbs v The Queen (1987) 163 CLR 447, and,
Veen (No. 2) (1986) 164 CLR 465
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10-03-2005 11:57 AM
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Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by M73A on 09-29-2005 at 05:38 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by hmaster on 09-29-2005 at 05:39 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by Negro_Joe on 09-29-2005 at 05:40 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by M73A on 09-29-2005 at 05:40 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by _Humphreys on 09-29-2005 at 05:42 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by dotNorma on 09-29-2005 at 06:40 PM
RE: RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by segosa on 09-29-2005 at 06:50 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by user27089 on 09-29-2005 at 06:52 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by Negro_Joe on 09-29-2005 at 06:53 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by user27089 on 09-29-2005 at 06:58 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by TylerG on 09-29-2005 at 09:25 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by emit on 09-30-2005 at 12:52 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by mwe99 on 09-30-2005 at 12:53 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by lordy on 09-30-2005 at 01:24 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by qgroessl on 09-30-2005 at 01:27 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by mwe99 on 09-30-2005 at 01:32 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by lordy on 09-30-2005 at 01:37 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by -rafy- on 09-30-2005 at 01:42 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by lizard.boy on 09-30-2005 at 02:01 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by -rafy- on 09-30-2005 at 02:13 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by SikStyles on 09-30-2005 at 02:59 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by Pipish on 10-02-2005 at 05:57 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by ~INVASION~ on 10-02-2005 at 06:03 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by dotNorma on 10-02-2005 at 06:12 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by John Anderton on 10-02-2005 at 07:12 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by albert on 10-02-2005 at 07:30 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by spokes on 10-02-2005 at 07:35 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by -rafy- on 10-02-2005 at 07:45 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by ~INVASION~ on 10-02-2005 at 08:40 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by Anubis on 10-02-2005 at 09:01 AM
RE: RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by -rafy- on 10-02-2005 at 09:55 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by rav0 on 10-02-2005 at 10:37 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by evil_panda on 10-02-2005 at 12:10 PM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by -rafy- on 10-02-2005 at 01:17 PM
RE: RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by rav0 on 10-03-2005 at 10:04 AM
RE: RE: RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by -rafy- on 10-03-2005 at 11:57 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by myrtle on 10-03-2005 at 07:18 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by lordy on 10-03-2005 at 10:38 AM
RE: Should Life Imprisonment Mean Life or 40 years? - by Ash_ on 10-03-2005 at 10:40 AM


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