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Originally posted by Kae
i know THE MAN, Patchou as the ability to control all data sent to and from messenger.
No, he hasn't. The data send from and to MSN Messenger is in most cases actually mandatory. removing or tampering with this data will only cause you to be disconnected in most cases.
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Originally posted by Kae
im positive this can be engineered and all teh features we have today rock in the same mannor.
There is no features in Messenger Plus which involves tampering with the protocol. And Patchou mostly wants to keep it that way.
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Originally posted by Kae
i just dont know why they added this 'feature' to a messenger.
to me, its complete spyware!
Like Chestah has said, this is part of how the protocol works and actually safes precious bandwidth. The close window messages is the same as the one which closes the "chat-line" between you and your contacts. If this would be removed the connection would stay open for a long period, resulting in a massive increase in bandwidth usage.
Even if you intercept this message and remove it from the stream, the servers will still disconnect the idle chat and the same message is send again and your contact can thus interpret it it again as a closed window message (because it actually is). Removing this one is impossible and will result in an always open connection to anybody you ever speek to.
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Originally posted by Kae
i mean, WTF? what were they thinking?
i give people the right to see things i post, see my icons, see my text, laughter, even sounds (which i disable btw). and on the inverse, i allow poeple to send me the same thing.
i also have to click a verification window whenever someone wants the ability to see when i am online.
how the heck did it go from that to knowing when you have a window open? having automated systems report back information i -absolutely- dont want poeple to know?
who the F gave the right to some application, which i didnt even upgrade to (still using 6.2) to mess with my friendships?
You are taking this way out of context...
The message you are talking about is part of the protocol and is never meant to be used as a "closed window notifier", because it isn't only that. It is a closed connection message so the other MSN Messenger knows when to close down a connection, it is a very intristic function of how chatting works.
Also, it is not MSN Messenger who implemented this visible message and usage of that specific package to detect when someone closed your window. It is made by people who have got nothing todo with MSN Messenger appart that they hack into its protocol (a which should be hidden to the normal user anyway). eg: It is TB who made the Messenger Plus! plugin called StuffPlug who implemented this detection for closed windows, not MSN Messenger.
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Originally posted by Kae
this is sooooooo a huge issue to me, that it caused enough anger that i took the step to joining this forum.
I noticed
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But maybe you could inform your contacts that this message doesn't mean that you don't want to talk to them, but means that you want more space on your desktop. This is far more productive in the end as in this way your unknowingly contacts will now also know that closing a window doesn't nessecairly mean that people don't wanna chat with them. So instead of ranting and getting all excited, tell your contacts how they need to interpret this message from StuffPlug, it is better for your contacts and better for your heart...
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