About female role models (or male in lesbian marriages), what is wrong in having an aunt or grandma (and also don't forget about teachers in school... school has a very big impact on education and raising)? Quite often the female role model is done by a female member of the family, this doesn't need to be the 'mother' at all...
If you find it wrong, then what about all those families where the mother has died when the child was very young, etc? Are all those childen "fucked up" then too? I think not...
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Originally posted by andrewdodd13
The other thing is, in Human Biology right now, we're learning about birth and infant development. Practically everywhere it is talking about the bond between a mother and her child, but not the father. He's rarely mentioned at all.
And as far as I know, it's quite hard for a man to lactate - everyone knows there are benefits to breast milk rather than the artificial stuff (in the first few weeks after birth the mother's breast milk actually contains a high amount of antibodies, which are important so the baby doesn't get seriously ill).
Infants at that age are not put up for adoption to begin with or put in a gay-family on that age (quite often exactly for these reasons).
And if a gay-couple wants a child the birth-mother always is involved in the first few months. I would indeed have questions (but never forbid it or have real problems with it in general) with 'adopting' a just born child. It depends on who the couple is, what experience they have, the competence, etc.
And that is also exactly what is been investigated by adoption agencies before they let someone adopt a child (or it should be!?).
Also, the bond between mother and child is indeed strong, but this just goes the same for a bond between father and child (talking about lesbian couples now).
What I mean is, everything is a nuance and when one discusses specific scenarions (eg: adopting a baby) one should look at it from case to case.
I've never seen a report or story about a child being "fucked up" (for the lack of a better term) because it was raised by a couple of the same sex. And the theoretical reports of how it would be bad for the child, have always been disproven in practice again and again...
It has everything todo with the upraising and education given to the child. Thus never with the gender of the parents, but with their competence, dispite the fact if they are the same gender or not.
I don't see what one could have against it.
Bullying at school? Then make people aware that there is nothing wrong with it and that the problem are the bullies, not the fathers or mothers of the child. Children with glasses and braces are quite often bullied too, does that make glasses and braces a bad thing?
Bond/female role model? There are almost always female role models very near. Grandma, aunt, teacher, etc... etc... Also, think about the one parent families, are those bad too then?
Unnatural? So what? Beer or soda doesn't grow on trees either, yet we all drink it (and it even has been prooven healthy, if you drink it smartly). And I also could bring the glasses and braces example into this too.
Religion? Ok, granted. But still, if the gay-couple's religion would prevent it, they wouldn't have a child in the first place. And if it is against other people's religion, so what. It isn't their problem or their child...
The bottom line is that it may not "feel" alright to you... but that doesn't make it a bad thing. It just means you're not used to it... (Fear for the unknown...?)
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Originally posted by paperless
Sooner or later things will change..
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In the future, married gay couples will be common and adopted children probably wont be a problem anymore because they will not feel "different"...
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