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RE: I need Beta Testers...
Thanks for the explanation.

It answers some of my questions, but on the other hand it also confirms what I first thought:

Everything your program does can be done from within a Messenger Plus! script. You don't need any DLLs, TLBs or ActivX EXEs.

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Since the EXEs and DLLs are ActivXs they need registering too, so your program uses more than just the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/MG Yazilim/MsgBotLive/ key.
Speeking of which, is there a specific reason why you use HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and not HKEY_CURRENT_USER to store settings? You should always use HKEY_CURRENT_USER to store user specific stuff so that settings from different Windows users don't conflict with eachother.

As for the (lack of) unicode support in VB6, you can use Windows APIs to show unicode characters and even allow LTR support, so you don't need an OCX for that. Or you can also use a RichtText editbox instead of a Label control, which fully supports Unicode.
But this said, you wouldn't have problems with unicode if you made this as a pure Messenger Plus! script in the first place.


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Originally posted by Wii
So, please explain to me. I see many DLL and EXE files in Messenger Plus! Live directory. Can i ask why? Of course yes i can ask this but NO!. If there is any dll came with MP!L its mean MPL need this dll. Ohh BTW, MsgPlus have a own registry entires. Can i ask why? No. This is patchou's program. Not mine.

Last day i download MessengerDiscovery2 from web. Great tool. Made with .net. Can i ask why are you using dll and exe's? This is not ethic.
The big difference is that Messenger Plus! needs those DLLs and registry keys. Your program realy does not; it can be made as a pure Messenger Plus! script without the need of any EXEs and DLLs.

If it was possible for Messenger Plus! to function without the need of the DLL and registry keys than Patchou would have made it so. In fact, in the past, there was an EXE. But Patchou found a better way to do what Plus! does without the need of the EXE, so he removed it. This is the same for your program: There are better way ways to do what your program does.

So, it isn't a matter of whos program it is. The question is can it be (easly) done without the need of resource hogging DLLs, ActiveX EXEs, OCXs and TLBs. And the answer is: yes it can, you really do not need all those external files since everything your program does can be done from within Plus! scripting. On top of that, you wouldn't have the problems like unicode support, restarting, installing, registering, etc if you made it as a Plus! script. And to top it off, the whole package would be extremely smaller in size, lightweight and far more transparant. Also people trust open source scripting much more than closed source DLLs and EXEs, especially if it seems that they are not needed.

As for MessengerDiscovery. That is a completely other thing and functions in a completely different way than Messenger Plus! and your program. For starters, your program needs and uses Plus! scripting in some extent already. MessengerDiscovery doesn't use Plus! coding and must provide its own backbone. MessengerDiscovery does things which requires the stuff it comes with, your program does not require those things. Your program doesn't need parallel threads and processing side by side with Messenger to do what it does and it can function perfectly from within the scripting (in fact it would probably be more stable than it is now).

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Originally posted by Wii
...im using TLB for parse email without any hacks and parse all list very FAST and detailed.

If you  ask for what reason. I can explain that:

For example my account is 123@wii.com. If i open my credit status window, program parse my account info from web. If i change this email from script like my friends email 456@wii.com i can see 456's user information, remaing credits, phone numbers. But if i use TLB for parse email, user cannot change this. ONLY if you are really have this mail you can see your own information.

Then I'm afraid to say that the system you're using as the online service is realy very very insecure. It would be very easy for people to see and change other people's user information, even with the method you use now.

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Note that the stuff I ask and say is to try to improve your program and to show that it is possible to do what you want without the need of all those extra external files. It is just advise. Of course you decide what you do with your program, but I think it would benefit both you and your potential users.

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I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 02-13-2009 at 07:58 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by RaPLeX on 02-13-2009 at 08:11 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 02-13-2009 at 08:32 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by roflmao456 on 02-13-2009 at 08:38 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 02-13-2009 at 08:47 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-08-2009 at 05:29 AM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-08-2009 at 11:03 AM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-08-2009 at 11:23 AM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by NanaFreak on 04-08-2009 at 11:39 AM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-08-2009 at 11:52 AM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Thor on 04-08-2009 at 11:39 AM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-08-2009 at 01:16 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-08-2009 at 01:24 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-08-2009 at 02:06 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-08-2009 at 03:38 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-08-2009 at 05:13 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-08-2009 at 06:15 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-08-2009 at 07:12 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-09-2009 at 06:51 AM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-09-2009 at 01:54 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-09-2009 at 02:11 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-09-2009 at 02:46 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-09-2009 at 03:06 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-09-2009 at 03:41 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-09-2009 at 04:03 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-09-2009 at 04:43 PM
RE: RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-09-2009 at 05:10 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by matty on 04-09-2009 at 07:09 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by CookieRevised on 04-09-2009 at 11:12 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by CookieRevised on 04-10-2009 at 09:14 PM
RE: I need Beta Testers... - by Wii on 04-11-2009 at 01:25 AM


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