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O.P. RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0......
Yes I know that Windows Defender is an anti-malware program but i was saying i never liked or trusted any of the Microsoft's product, which is why i used Windows Defender & One Care as examples, because those are the other 2 Microsoft products related to this. Since you said you've never used paid products, maybe that's the reason why. I'm not saying free products have to be crap, Avira & Avast both have free versions and are very very efficient in doing what it does, especially Avira.

Comodo Internet Security is another must have, it comes with a great firewall and i'm sure many people will agree with me on this, an antivirus defense and internet defense, it's free as well.

And I KNOW what i'm talking about. Antiviruses DO display outgoing/incoming activity. Sure it sounds like something a firewall should do but antiviruses now days come with a lot of options, and i did mention that you can control what file or process accesses what part of your system, like your registry, or that if it tries to launch another program or another process, maybe global hooks (keyloggers usually) might try to access a certain file or SEND/RECEIVE (yes, like i said above already) files.

I've worked with keyloggers before and have used it myself on my own computer just to test it out for educational purposes, and i can confirm that keyloggers can secretly send or receive commands and logs from the victim's PC, to the PC of the person who is controlling it. Try Googling Perfect Keylogger for example, that's just one of the many ones out there.

Anyway, if a Firewall simply limits the connection, that's not enough, you want to remove the source as well, and by doing so GOOD antiviurses detect what a certain program is trying to do and find out exactly what it is, therefore it has the feature to detect certain established incoming/outgoing connections that are usually hidden without you noticing, that's what keyloggers do in fact, everything, all its process and connections, are fully hidden, not even the best firewalls can detect them and i know this from experience, that's why there are certain antiviruses that are good and should be used in conjunction with your anti-malware and firewall etc.


And that article was just an example of how I do my research and read reviews or charts from, i don't simply just grab any random antivirus program or any program for that matter just because someone tells me it's good. If a bunch of people tell me it's good and i've heard and read good things about it, then i try it. But anyway, if you go around some dedicated forums for dealing with antiviruses or Google for the top antiviruses of 2010, you can't even find any mentioning of Microsoft Security Essentials. Sure you gave those 2 sites, I read them but they don't sound very convincing and the features it talked about don't seem very promising either, and this is from LifeHacker, not a very good site for professional advice on dealing with antiviurses in my opinion, that's the site where I used to get all sorts of hacks from for certain softwares a few years ago, like Youtube or Gmail hacks etc.


Anyway, just to support what i've said, i actually uninstalled Threatfire, installed Microsoft Security Essentials, did a full update and before i go on, just to prove to you i did install and do the update, here's what my version shows:

Microsoft Security Essentials Version:  1.0.1611.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.0.6212.0
Engine Version: 1.1.5405.0
Antivirus definitions: 1.73.8.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.73.8.0


it should look the same as yours i hope.


So anyway, after doing all this, MSG Plus! Live still doesn't work.

Not only that, but i also tested out Microsoft Security Essentials, i did a full system scan and it found just one virus, which isn't even a virus, it's a trainer i use for a gamer so it's a false positive.

HOWEVER, i do know i have a few viruses, they're keygens and patches for programs (yes i know, warez, but i'm not specifically talking about it) and i know some of them aren't trustworthy, and i have tons of those that i actually know ARE viruses and kept them specifically for testing out any new antivirus/anti-malware programs just to see whether they're good at detecting them or not, and guess what, Microsoft Security Essentials didn't even find any of them, not one.


This easily proves to me it's weak and not powerful enough. Most antiviruses now days can probably only detect around 30%-40% of the most recent and newest viruses, and that's already bad as it is, so if an antivirus like this one, can't even find cracks/keygens/patches that contain trojans or hookers, they're not safe and good to use.


Anyway aside from all that, i've done everything suggested. So, what now?
01-22-2010 09:43 PM
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MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-20-2010 at 05:45 AM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by robert_dll on 01-20-2010 at 09:14 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-20-2010 at 10:58 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by Nagamasa on 01-21-2010 at 02:43 AM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-21-2010 at 02:50 AM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by djdannyp on 01-21-2010 at 01:59 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-21-2010 at 10:34 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by djdannyp on 01-22-2010 at 09:58 AM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-22-2010 at 10:25 AM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by djdannyp on 01-22-2010 at 10:40 AM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-22-2010 at 09:43 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by djdannyp on 01-22-2010 at 10:14 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-22-2010 at 10:24 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-24-2010 at 04:17 AM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by djdannyp on 01-24-2010 at 02:10 PM
RE: MSG not showing in WLM 9.0...... - by chaoscreater on 01-25-2010 at 02:26 AM


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