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O.P. really dodgy windows problem
my friend has a del laptop, running windows xp, it's second hand and the looser who he bought it off didn't reset any of the passwords,
so the situation is:
  • windows xp pro's built in amin account has a password which we don't know
  • there are no accounts which we know the password to
  • the laptop has no floppy
  • and an external cd
  • the boot sequence is network, hdd, usb
  • the bios has a password too

well we've come to the conclusion that we have the following options,
  • some how setup a network boot
  • use some uber hack to reset all the passwords
  • or some how get the hdd into another pc and wipe it, then copy bartpe on to it and work from there

nb: the hdd he tells me has a connector ribbion resembling that used in an ipod

also he tried to short circuit the cmos pins to reset the password, he didn't blow it up, but it didn't work either

any ideas,
i know it sounds like an unlikely scenario, but it happened,
and don't tell me to call the guy he bought it off, we did he said "get fcked"

This post was edited on 04-02-2008 at 07:27 AM by Jarrod.

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RE: really dodgy windows problem
you could use an ntpasswd CD to change passwords of users...
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O.P. RE: really dodgy windows problem
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you could use an ntpasswd CD to change passwords of users...
we did already think of that the cd drive is not in the boot order and we have no floppy drive

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  • some how setup a network boot
  • use some uber hack to reset all the passwords
  • or some how get the hdd into another pc and wipe it, then copy bartpe on to it and work from there





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RE: really dodgy windows problem
If resetting the CMOS didn't work (which is unusual, though I've never seen that done on a laptop) then you could just take the hard drive out the laptop, get a 2.5" adaptor or enclosure for it, and use ntpasswd on it in another computer.

I believe there are tools out there which can be used to hack open Dell BIOS, not sure however how effective they are.
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RE: really dodgy windows problem
Start > Run > control userpasswords2
Under Password for Administrator click Rest Password
That should solve at least one of their problems
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RE: really dodgy windows problem
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Start > Run > control userpasswords2
Under Password for Administrator click Rest Password
That should solve at least one of their problems
i dont think he can actually log into any account...
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If resetting the CMOS didn't work (which is unusual, though I've never seen that done on a laptop) then you could just take the hard drive out the laptop, get a 2.5" adaptor or enclosure for it, and use ntpasswd on it in another computer.

I believe there are tools out there which can be used to hack open Dell BIOS, not sure however how effective they are.

yeah i want to try do it cos knowing him he didn't do it right, but he's happy to get an adapter, we just didn't know which ones to get so we'll give it a try.
as for the bios tools we have no way to use them, really we either need to network boot or move the hdd we'll probally just move the hdd, if we do that we'll just format it instead of resetting the passwords...

just out of curiosity how do we network boot?


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quote:
Originally posted by Aardvark
Start > Run > control userpasswords2
Under Password for Administrator click Rest Password
That should solve at least one of their problems
i dont think he can actually log into any account...
my friend if it was that easy, where would the fun be

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if you can log it the task is simple,
log in, hack bios password from windows, change the boot order use windows key and reset the admin password, logon as admin i know how to ace passwords with an interface i just needed help getting the interface:P

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RE: really dodgy windows problem
use the ultimate deployment appliance to (re)install the OS. Run it as a Virtual Machine on another PC and boot it over the network.
then you have your interface to solve your bios password problem ;)

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RE: really dodgy windows problem
The BIOS  (nearly) always has a back door password. I'm sure you can get a list of them on the internet somewhere for the laptops make (BIOS make). Once in change the boot order and format with a Windows CD
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RE: really dodgy windows problem
Try using the password Dell to get into the BIOS it's a known backdoor for most dell's.

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