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Originally posted by riahc4
Ok and can't that be resolved by writing a new plugin reloaded that avoids/trys to fix those issues?
Just tried to reload with your Reloader and MSN has freezed up.

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Nope ... only thing you can do is find which specific plugin causes the problem and try to resolve it with the author...

To find that you have to reload your plugins by adding each plugin at a time an see if it freezes...

as TB and i said, it is not the reloader's issue, the issue is with a specific plugin's cleanup sequence...
The reloader simply posts a message to plus to make them reload (unload/reload) plugins, it doesnot mess with the actuall procedure of loading and unloading
it just initiates the procedure... and lets plus handle the rest

(and even IF it could be done it would be impossible to maintain as plugins come out very often, new plugins/ or updated versions so it will be impsossible to maintain such a project)

Then I just hope Plus! comes out with its own plugin reloader like I requested and future plugins must be made with a instruction to make them 100% reload compatible if not they cant be installed.

Plus's own reloader won't solve anything, it'd do the exact same thing.
And there are already guidelines to do proper cleanup, but not everyone obeys them...

so can you post the list of your currently loaded plugins ?
and try to find which is at fault...

i think it is highly impropable that anything can be done in Plus! either

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i just realised that there is a small bug in Plus, that could be solved in a reloader plugin or better by Patchou...

The issue is only caused by VB plugins (plugins coded in visual basic).
Plus successfully removes all referenses to these plugins but fails to remove them from memory... therefore causing unfavourable effects...

Plus after removing all VB plugins references should call
CoFreeUnusedLibraries();
which will automatically remove unused libraries, (plugins) and therefore restore compatibility...

This way plugins vb and c++ can be loaded/unloaded, live after a reload message, without the need to restart messenger

I am posting this in the bugs section so that Patchou can fix it...
This is in reply to riahc4

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ok riahc4, i have built an new reloader, that i think can unload correctly the vb plugins...
you can try it here http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=52643
but it cant do anything further if a plugin does not follow proper unloading procedure and therefore produces a crash or other effect...

this is the most amazing plugin ( usefull) ever!