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RE: Should i get vista?
Just use 32 bit XP on a 64 bit PC. Problem solved.

PS. 32 bit is pretty much deprecated. That means in a few years it'll be "obsolete", and then "upsupported".

Although the amount it took 16 bit to phase out after 32 bit was introduced was quite long, so 32bit may be around for a while yet. (Even though there are very few 32 bit processors still being made).

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RE: Should i get vista?
will it work?
Like, don't you need a 64bit Windows for a 64bit computer?
and I also heard that certain programs needs tweaking or something for them to work on 64bit. Is this completely true or was something else meant here?
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RE: Should i get vista?
Some programs don't work on 64 bit versions of Windows, that's a true fact.

However most 64-bit CPUs are currently backwards compatible with 32-bits. That's the main reason why the AMD Athlon 64 processors succeeded and the Intel Itanium was renamed the iTanic.

And stuff compiled for 64-bit CPUs will not run on 32-bit CPUs, thats fo sure. :)
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Plus there's all that Creative Commons Right (or something like that). I hope to get past it, I've been told quite a lot of annoying things about it.


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However most 64-bit CPUs are currently backwards compatible with 32-bits. That's the main reason why the AMD Athlon 64 processors succeeded and the Intel Itanium was renamed the iTanic.


Ooh yes. In fact, even 64 bit x86s think they are 16 bit when they start up, so you could even run QDOS on them if you like.
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RE: Should i get vista?
NO.


It's a bunch of Microsoft crap that forces you to make your PC a whore to hollywood. Furthermore, it was built from the ground up meaning un-stability ahoy. Also...nothing works with it. My advice - stick with XP until the DX 10 exodus arrives.

Just think; what benefits will Vista give me over XP?


DX 10 = Direct X 10, it will be needed in the future for playing new games. This is not available for XP.

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Like, don't you need a 64bit Windows for a 64bit computer?
and I also heard that certain programs needs tweaking or something for them to work on 64bit. Is this completely true or was something else meant here?

64 bit PCs can run 32 bit Operating Systems, I am currently running 32 bit XP on my 64 bit Athlon. 64 bit OSs such as Windows XP 64 are not compatiable with some software and hardware.

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Furthermore, it was built from the ground up meaning un-stability ahoy
no it wasn't :-/, its based off server 2003. The first vista was going to be a rewrite then they changed it ages ago.
and the only thing that makes vista unstable are the crappy drivers that venders are producing for it
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no it wasn't , its based off server 2003. The first vista was going to be a rewrite then they changed it ages ago.
and the only thing that makes vista unstable are the crappy drivers that venders are producing for it

Well my sources are wrong...

Question, if it wasn't built from new how come it took them 6 years to make this OS?
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RE: RE: Should i get vista?
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no it wasn't , its based off server 2003. The first vista was going to be a rewrite then they changed it ages ago.
and the only thing that makes vista unstable are the crappy drivers that venders are producing for it

Well my sources are wrong...

Question, if it wasn't built from new how come it took them 6 years to make this OS?

Because Microsoft suck.
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Times have changed, nearly everything works fine with Vista now. Stop living in the past. Once you start using it, you love it.
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RE: RE: Should i get vista?
And in addition to dt's reply on Carltos Cool's post:
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DX 10 = Direct X 10, it will be needed in the future for playing new games. This is not available for XP.
errrmm... it is not available _yet_...
When they become available, put a DirectX 10 compatible graphics card in your PC and download the DirectX 10 driver and you're done   :rolleyes:

ps: its "DirectX", not "Direct X"

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Question, if it wasn't built from new how come it took them 6 years to make this OS?
Because:
1) Basing it on something does not mean you can simply copy/paste code.
2) Development doesn't just mean writing code. It also means doing research, study, making decisions, knowing what you're going to do in the first place, planning stuff, etc
3) every small aspect of the software needs to be tested in absolute detail in extremely many scenarios and with an extreme lot of 3rd party stuff.

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To all the bashers: I suggest to read some developpers blogs once in a while to get an idea of what it takes to make a piece of big software. A lot of people have an extremely wrong idea about this and think everything comes by itself.
And it is certainly not only some department of Microsoft (again something which many people get totally wrong; Microsoft consists of a _lot_ of different independent departements) which doesn't get the deadline.

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vista! It is a new OS... Remember all the (stupid crap) talk when XP came out? When XP SP2 came out? Deja-vu all the way I'd say....

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