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Originally posted by ~landsberg~
They change offsets and stuff for no good reason

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How the hell do you know their reasons for changing offsets? Just because they don't post the exact technical details of all the changes on their site, it doesn't mean they don't have good reasons.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
tbh, I don't think that MS changed it because they wanted to stop Plus!. They just rewrote the code and the UI. That Plus! couldn't hook anymore wasn't done intentionaly. (note: not a fact, but my opinion)

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I agree.

I wouldn't say Microsoft generally changes stuff in Messenger to cause my little software or any other one any trouble. Most current Messenger patches are cracks and because of that, they are extremely linked to the different Messenger builds they were created for. Messenger Plus! is different because it doesn't change the binary content of Messenger, it simply attaches to it and coexists peacefully (that's why most new Messenger version do not affect me). When Messenger 6 was released, many changes were made in the UI and even if I wouldn't say that they did it on purpose for Plus!, I'm still pretty sure that the intent was to block plugins like Plus!, and they succeeded. If you recall, several plugins were started to immitating Messenger Plus!, and it all stoped when Messenger 6 got released. So, even if it took me weeks of hard work to create a working Messenger 6 compatiblity, I can only thanks Microsoft for getting rid of the other companies who tried to profit from my success . If Messenger Plus! was bothering them, they would already have told me about it... they currently tolerate it as it's not a hack tool, it doesn't do anything weird with the protocol, and it only brings more people to use Messenger. So, don't worry about it .

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Originally posted by Patchou
. If Messenger Plus! was bothering them, they would already have told me about it... they currently tolerate it as it's not a hack tool, it doesn't do anything weird with the protocol, and it only brings more people to use Messenger. So, don't worry about it

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Very True I wouldn't be suprised if you requested help from Microsoft to work around the Messenger 6 problem they would have helped you.  Plus!  is a great program it aint tack like some of these lesser add-ons and it's very well written.  Microsoft cant have a problem.  Still your only a little fish to them

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Originally posted by Wabz
I wouldn't be suprised if you requested help from Microsoft to work around the Messenger 6 problem

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I wouldn't go that far...

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Originally posted by Patchou
If you recall, several plugins were started to immitating Messenger Plus!

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I never heard of them...I knew some people have given a go at rewriting parts of Plus! but I didn't know anyone was successful...

Didnt u ever heard of "Advanced Messenger Plus!" ?
They wanted to earn money with it, but it was just a copy of Plus! and with less features
Cant remeber the company's name though

EDITED: Gramasoft
as ever, u can find more info in this thread in the archive forum http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=1710&page=1

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Originally posted by Chrono
Didnt u ever heard of "Advanced Messenger Plus!" ?
They wanted to earn money with it, but it was just a copy of Plus! and with less features
Cant remeber the company's name though

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http://www.gramasoft.com/adv-msg-plus <-- seems that they took down the page...

lol

his program probably stopped working after the release of 6.0

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Originally posted by Chrono
lol

his program probably stopped working after the release of 6.0

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TBh i dont think it worked in the first place

I dont think they'd be working together, but I'll agree with the fact they probably didnt do it to get rid of Plus! If they wanting to do that, they'd probably go through the coughts as the law IS on their side And as you say, they havent got a problem because you dont mess with MSN, you jus add to it