Shoutbox

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Originally posted by Choli
the only controls that don't have it are the Accept/Cancel/Apply in the preferences. You can use Enter/Esc keys for them

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Accept (? --> OK) is Enter
Cancel is Esc
But what about Apply? Normal Windows behaviour for Apply is an ampersand in it!
And all other instances of OK and Cancel have ampersands. Very strange, indeed! NOT normal Windows behaviour.

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Originally posted by Matty.

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Originally posted by Guido

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Originally posted by Matty.
Well since we have Alt+1 or 2 or 3 etc what about Keys to jump to Different Sections (the images on the left)

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press tab till you focus on the column of buttons and then just press the UP and DOWN keys. Ctrl+tab would be better though

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I am a Beta tester and didn't even know that. lol but I know this is asking a lot but if one of this images along the side gets the focus via tab then the colour should be something else to inform the user because its really hard to see which has the focus.

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Err actually, I'm the designer and just found that up/down thing out after you people asked . I just knew Patchou would have added a way, but didn't know which it was. I thought ctrl+tab worked.

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Very strange, indeed! NOT normal Windows behaviour.

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Not that it's so dramatic
I remember reminding patchou to add &s there    Anyway, you CAN access them with TAB and you can see the focus there

(and he said accept because in spanish it's aceptar, so he probably confused it for a second -- happens)

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
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Originally posted by Choli
no need of them, and the same in other similar menus


True, you can just press the first letter of the menu, but many people don't know that, and also, you can have the same letter in several items, putting ampersands there doesn't harm, infact they help IMHO

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in fact, what i meant wast that because you can't pop-up those menus * with the keyboard, there's no need to put &s there, because you'll pop the menu with the mouse and i don't think you'll select the option with the keyboard (just in case, we put &s there)

* -> the enhanced plus icon menu, for example...

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Originally posted by uam
btw. is there any /command for preferences or personalised status window?

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/config and /persostat
more info: http://www.msgplus.net/help_cmdtag.php

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Originally posted by uam
oh yes and one imporant question, but maybe a little bit off-topic
can the AutoComplete feature be done for command list?

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it'll be done, don't worry.

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Originally posted by Matty.
I am a Beta tester and didn't even know that.

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hahaha, the same for me

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Originally posted by Leif
But what about Apply?

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well, in fact you don't need a shortcut for apply, because you can click OK (ie: press Enter). (yes, i know, it closes the window; but after all, it applies the settings )

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Originally posted by Leif
And all other instances of OK and Cancel have ampersands. Very strange, indeed! NOT normal Windows behaviour.

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IMO, those buttons don't have &s because it'd be very dificult for us, translators, to be sure that those &s don't conflict with all the ampersands in all the panels of the preferences.

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Originally posted by Guido
and he said accept because in spanish it's aceptar, so he probably confused it for a second  -- happens)

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yes, sorry; i was thinking in spanish

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IMO, those buttons don't have &s because it'd be very dificult for us, translators, to be sure that those &s don't conflict with all the ampersands in all the panels of the preferences.

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That's the precise reason indeed

I've noticed one keyboard stuff more at the moment: when dragging any dockable window (or toolbar or whatever else), it is possible to use Ctrl key (in standard MS GUI) to temporarily disable docking.

How can be MSN window moved out of the screen when docking is enabled?