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| John Full Member
 
    
 
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts By, "the face in the corner", I'm assuming you meant the face in the bottom right red circle. 
 How can I explain that face? Simple: You take a photo of a floor, open it in an imaging editing program, add some light and dark spots that resemble a face and hey presto!, you've got a 'ghost'.
 
 If it's not that then it's just a coinsidence.
 
 Here's a way (out of many) to prove that ghosts cannot exsist: I'm sure you think that ghosts can think, right? Well for something to be able to think, it needs solid matter (a brain) and inside that solid matter, electrical and chemical reactions have to take place, for it to be able to think. (That's the shortest way you can define what thinking physically is.)
 
 But.. I'm sure you'd say that ghosts are see-through or even invisible, right? Well solid matter can never be invisible, (you can see glass even though it's see-through). So since you need solid matter to think, ghosts wouldnt be able to think, and something that isnt able to think, wouldnt be able to do all the things you say ghosts can do, would it?
 
 P.s., I'm not skepticize anything, so don't call me a skeptic. What I'm saying are pure facts, I'm not being skeptic about anything. (To skepticize: To always have doubt, or to pretend to doubt everything.)
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| squall_leonhart69rBanned
 
 
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts no fool
 ghosts refract light
 
 they aren't solid nor are they invisible
 
 they just need to be in a certain light to become visible
 
 ectoplasm refracts light to the point of non existence
 
 and if that picture isn't real then why does she blink as i look at it?
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 | | RE: RE: Do you believe in ghosts quote:Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
 no fool
 
 ghosts refract light
 
 they aren't solid nor are they invisible
 
 they just need to be in a certain light to become visible
 
 ectoplasm refracts light to the point of non existence
 
 and if that picture isn't real then why does she blink as i look at it?
 
 
 You just proved my point: Something that isn't solid cannot think, that's a pure fact. Thus gosts cannot excist like how you say they do, if they can't think. | 
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts ectoplasm also produces electro impulses which is how they think
 it also can bring a room the chill point and even raise it a few degrees
 
 and you don't need electric impulses to think
 
 all you need is cells,
 
 and ghosts have cells
 
 you can't prove that they don't exist and i can't prove that they do
 
 but all i know is the proof is more in the favour that they do, in the eyes of the church (which i don't follow) as well as in the eyes of science which have found many unexplainable phenomon
 
 and as i said, my mum saw the spirits auras in the picture, so that shunts your theory comlpletely
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts First of all, ectoplasm is a word that was made up to discribe something that has never been proven to exist. 
 Secondly, if you're saying ghosts are ectoplasm, but then saying ghosts have cells, you're saying two oppisites. Ectoplasm (from what Freud describes it to be) isnt supposed to consist of cells, nor solid matter.
 
 If ghosts were real, they'd be able to think, right? So listen to me, for something to think it needs to have solid matter (a brain), and since you can always see solid matter, it would mean that we'd always be able to see ghosts.
 
 "and as i said, my mum saw the spirits auras in the picture, so that shunts your theory comlpletely"
 How in the world does that shunt my theory? If I told someone that I saw a whale flying yesterday, would that automatically 'shunt' the theory that whales cant fly? I don't think so. Saying something, without proof, can never prove anything right or wrong.
 
 P.s. You said: "and you don't need electric impulses to think" Well I'm sorry to say, when you think, you trigger chemical and electrical reactions in your brain. How do you think your brains tell your muslcles to move? Through electrical reactions that run through your nerves.
 
 It's amazing how a bit of fog can, so quickly, convince someone that ghosts exist.
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| squall_leonhart69rBanned
 
 
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts no, its amazing how skeptics find any reason not to believe
 im not a believe in the church or god
 
 but if you remember
 
 people have out of body experiences
 
 and during those times, brain activity functions on a low level only allowing the systems that need to run (such as heart and lungs) to keel going while the person is drifting
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts quote:Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
 no, its amazing how skeptics find any reason not to believe
 
 im not a believe in the church or god
 
 but if you remember
 
 people have out of body experiences
 
 and during those times, brain activity functions on a low level only allowing the systems that need to run (such as heart and lungs) to keel going while the person is drifting
 
 A BRAIN !! 
Something ghosts don't have, get it ? 
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts I've told you already, I'm not being a skeptic. I'm telling you pure facts which prove that it's not possible for ghosts to exist. It's not that I don't want to believe, give me proof and I'll believe. I think it would be quite interesting if ghosts were real. But I know for a face that they're not, because I can prove that they cant be real. 
 "people have out of body experiences"
 So they say.. That's also something that's never been proven. So I'm not going to just believe that, in the same manner as people just believe in ghosts without having any proof.
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 | | RE: Do you believe in ghosts exactly
 but theres no proof to say that your right either
 
 and theres alot of unexplainable crap in the world
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