Shoutbox

I have 2 questions about Windows Live Messenger. I haven't played around with the latest beta of WLM yet due to the current version of Plus not working with it.

1. My first question is about the voice call feature in Windows Live Messenger. How is it handled? Does it still use IP2IP (direct connect) like it does in MSN 7.5 and earlier? Or does it do it like Yahoo/Skype does (where it actually "calls" the computer instead of direct connect)?

2. My second question is about group convos. Does it still add you into group convos without asking you first? Or does it finally ask you wether you want to join a group convo or not before it adds you into one?

1) I'm pretty sure that Windows Live Messenger now uses the Yahoo/Skype method of "calling" the other person computer now rather than just connecting to the other persons computer for a voice chat. Hence the reason it has now been changed to "Phone Call".

2) I think that you still get added in straight away without having a choice unfortunately.

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Originally posted by traxor
2) I think that you still get added in straight away without having a choice unfortunately.

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I suggested this on the newsgroups just the other day and I got the response that many people want this. However, the developer team said it was "By-Design" and that they were not going to add it yet. I have no idea why this is considered "By-Design" thought because it has nothing to do with design, but with stability (in a way. since when youre added to many huge convos messenger can crash) and privacy. When you get added your email is imidiately shared with all the people in that conversation, without permisson.

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Originally posted by .Lou

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Originally posted by traxor
2) I think that you still get added in straight away without having a choice unfortunately.

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I suggested this on the newsgroups just the other day and I got the response that many people want this. However, the developer team said it was "By-Design" and that they were not going to add it yet. I have no idea why this is considered "By-Design" thought because it has nothing to do with design, but with stability (in a way. since when youre added to many huge convos messenger can crash) and privacy. When you get added your email is imidiately shared with all the people in that conversation, without permisson.

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Exactly! Plus it gets very annoying when someone keeps adding you into a group conversation over and over again when you leave, plus it doesn't tell you who added you in to begin with.

I know that a person by the name of psyko made a thing called Multi-User Convo Verify that runs in the background and makes a toaster prompting you what to do when someone invites you into a group conversation, but I don't think it works with Windows Live Messenger.

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Originally posted by traxor
1) I'm pretty sure that Windows Live Messenger now uses the Yahoo/Skype method of "calling" the other person computer now rather than just connecting to the other persons computer for a voice chat. Hence the reason it has now been changed to "Phone Call".

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Ah good. Personally I found the direct connect method to be totally unreliable. Especially when one was behind a firewall or NAT.

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Originally posted by kevintheman
Exactly! Plus it gets very annoying when someone keeps adding you into a group conversation over and over again when you leave, plus it doesn't tell you who added you in to begin with.

I know that a person by the name of psyko made a thing called Multi-User Convo Verify that runs in the background and makes a toaster prompting you what to do when someone invites you into a group conversation, but I don't think it works with Windows Live Messenger.

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Never heard of that... would've been good to have before I switched to WLM... hopefully somebody makes something like that for WLM because it's probably in fairly high demand.

Yeah i would deffinately use it...... its so anoyin when you get re-added into huge conversations.... especially when you have better stuff to do

Really the messenger team should put this feature into Windows Live Messenger as it is a security/privacy risk...not good!