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for those who understand french there is somewhat about Plus! in an article about adwares in Le Monde

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-651865,...9@51-828506,0.html

sorry for the others...

ooo coool
im sure patchou can read it
i dont know any french so : <

*sigh*

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Mais lors de l'installation de Messenger Plus, un adware particulièrement tenace peut être installé. Dans les premières versions de Messenger Plus, l'utilisateur n'avait pas vraiment le choix. Il est dans les versions plus récentes prévenu avant installation.

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Shows how much research that article writer has done... (it is said that only the recent versions contain an option to not install the sponsor).

There _always_ was an option to opt out...

Babelfish translation:

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The American government has just sent a warning to the malevolent software publishers while striking largest of them where that hurt: with the wallet. The Zango company, known for its inopportune installations of applications of tracing of the spending patterns of the Net surfers on their computer, accepted, November 3, to pay three million dollars (that is to say nearly 2,36 million euros) to the American government so that this last gives up the judicial actions and the continuations engaged following the many complaints of associations and Net surfers. Created in 1999, Zango, born from fusion between two giants of the adware and the spyware, 180Solutions and Hotbar, employs more than two hundred people all over the world. Until now, the company concluded from the trade agreements with certain distributors and sites of remote loading to insert, in free popular software - as of the savers of screen, plays, utilities or software of exchanges of files in P2P -, a small program allowing to trace the practices of surfing of the Net surfer, and thus to impose the opening of targeted and inopportune "pop-up" windows to him.
The installation of this type of program called "adware" or "spyware" (publiciels and espiogiciels) was done without assent of the user, often without his knowledge, and even sometimes by the exploitation of faults of safety specific to the navigator used. In addition to the three million dollars that Zango was committed pouring with the government, the agreement includes, according to the federal Commission of trade (CTF), the obligation for the company to offer to the consumers the diffusion of a message of warning at the time of the installation and especially a solution of simple desinstallation of the program. Indeed, without data-processing knowledge, it was almost impossible of désinstaller the adware, which changed name and of site, going until taking similar names with the system files of Windows. In an official statement published following the agreement, Zango recognizes its responsibility in the business but is defended to have acted as violation of the law. Always according to the company, in fact the companies partners would have taken too much freedom with its program.

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* RaceProUK now reads what he's posted.

And now the Plus!-related bit:

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Cyril Paciullo, more known under the pseudonym of "Patchou", comes to make the expenses of a similar business. This French developer living in Canada specialized in the improvement of Microsoft Messenger. And its small software, called Messenger Plus, which it developed only, settles very simply "in surcouche" of the customer of Microsoft. Practical, light and programmed well: its success was immediate. To such a degree that Microsoft promoted at the beginning of October 2006 with the very envied title of Microsoft "Most Valuable Professional" (MVP), dedication for a programmer under environment Windows (approximately 2 600 people in 81 countries). But at the time of the installation of Messenger More, a particularly tough adware can be installed. In the first versions of Messenger More, the user did not have really the choice. He in the more recent versions is prevented before installation. The community of the Net surfers offusquée itself some. Microsoft in agreed, "Patchou" was deposed of its title of MVP.

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A few untranslated words, but I think you get the gist of it.

And it's plain to see a painful lack of research here too. The sponsor is ridiculously easy to remove, and there's always been an option to not install it in the first place.

I wonder why people don't do enough research.

Someone should contact this person (preferably someone who knows french )

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Originally posted by vaccination

Someone should contact this person (preferably someone who knows french )

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* prashker calls dotLou

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Originally posted by SonicSam
Someone should contact this person (Smilie) (preferably someone who knows french (Smilie))

* SonicSam calls dotLou

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Doesn't Cookie know French?

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Originally posted by MenthiX

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Originally posted by SonicSam
Someone should contact this person (Smilie) (preferably someone who knows french (Smilie))

* SonicSam calls dotLou

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Doesn't Cookie know French?

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Probably

I can read it enough to get the meaning (if not too much difficult words are used), but that's as far as my French goes.

I have to say that the Adware in MP!L is among the least tricky ones, which means that anyway you have a chance to select "no" and DO NOT install this Adware.

This is not the case of other softwares, some of their tricks are:

-check the "install" check box by default
-try to fool you (saying that the software need this "plugin" to function normally
-place this check box in the last page after installation procedure (usually right below the "View readme" "start XXX immediately" checkboxes), in order that you pay no attention and click "ok" for granted
-Last and THE WORST (especially in Chinese softwares, I have to say....): automatic installation, no options....

So I really don't think Patchou need to be punished.