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Fight for freedom? Freedom of speech? Standing up against big companies? Those are only (mostly) used by immature kiddies who think steeling is cool who have no clue at all.

If you want to do something against copy protections STOP COPYING STUFF IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Fight for freedom? Freedom of speech? Standing up against big companies? Those are only (mostly) used by immature kiddies who think steeling is cool who have no clue at all.

If you want to do something against copy protections STOP COPYING STUFF IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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A wise friend once told me that all the laws and rules passed will not stop idiots from existing. You can drop the speed limit to 10, stick traffic lights at every intersection, lower the legal BAC and raise the drinking age, but you will still get people driving like idiots on the road. I think a big part of having a sane government is knowing when more restrictions won't solve the problem.

It's for that reason that I'm glad they broke that AACS DRM. It doesn't bother me in a big way, if there's a decent movie out there it will be on SBS. But DRM needs to be broken publicly and completely, so people know: all the legislation and encryption in the world will not stop the pirate crackers. You've either got to have a secure design, which isn't possible with a portable format, or accept that if you sell a movie people are going to copy it, and then hunt them down and sue them.

Hoping that these idiots stop is a grand outlook, but it's just not going to happen. Unless you've got some sort of genie or something. DRM is not a genie.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Fight for freedom? Freedom of speech? Standing up against big companies? Those are only (mostly) used by immature kiddies who think steeling is cool who have no clue at all.

If you want to do something against copy protections STOP COPYING STUFF IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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Many people copy DVDs for legitimate reasons, such as backing it up so that children can't damage the only copy when using it.

DRM only seems to stop the average user, crackers will always find a way around it so it doesn't really affect them. So the only people put out are average users that are limited by DRM (like users of the iTunes Music Store being unable to put their songs on non-iPod players because of the DRM).

At the end of the day, if it can be seen or heard, it can and will be copied.

DRM and other similar copy protections came to live only because there were too many illegal copies being seld and put for download, etc. Not because the average Joe made a copy to protect the original.... That's my point.

If people continue to copy stuff to give away, put for download, etc, it is only very normal that the 'industry' will come up with something else because the original authors _do_ loose money over it (despite all hard fairytails and myths floating around (mostly on the net... obviously))...

Then you can again complain 'they' punish the average Joe. Complain to those who make illegal copies instead I'd say.

I'm not mad at all at the 'industry' for having copy protections, even not when I want to make a copy of the original for safe keeping. If I would be mad I would be mad at the people who think copying something from someone else isn't harmfull or isn't stealing money from the original author.

EDIT: "Words aren't cold yet" like they say, and I already came across a thread again on these forums regarding illegal exchange/copying stuff.... That is what I mean...

This is more about standing up to the big guy. These companies have done some pretty nasty and wrong things to prevent illegal copies. Lets hope we see more and more of this kind of thing. The small guys standing up to the big guys!

I do not see how trying to protect someone's income/property is wrong.

And it starts with the 'little guys', namely you and me. How many of the people using mIRC actually payed for it for example?

It are those 'little guys' who copy and distribute stuff thinking they do nothing wrong, yet it are those very same 'little guys' who complain when a company is trying todo something against it...

If you want to do something against it or stand up against it, you should start by standing up against your friends and those other 'little guys' who copy stuff, use serialz, warez, cracks, etc.

If you stop copying, using serials, cracks, etc, the 'big companies' wouldn't have any reason to try to prevent illegal distribution...

Oh yeah.. Grow habits ffs.. I buy cds all the time, and guess what, much better audio quality..

It's basicly the same with DVDs. If you can afford a computer, a internet connection, lights etc, you can surely afford a DVD once in a while?

And it's basicly the same for games bla bla bla

Don't forget, this is the internet and we're on a "pretty" global market right now. You may choose from wherever is cheaper to buy your products. Per example, my last purchases were made off the UK.. They give you every choice possible, the best prices, everything, don't screw them with piracy

But Cookie, clearly the Mafiaa aren't trying to stop illegal copying and the like, because they have made it so easy for anyone with some technical know how and some time on their hands to do so. It'd be nice if they did screw the people doing the wrong thing, but they aren't. The question is then, what ARE they doing?

I've always wondered what Digg was about. And the hype actually made me register there and grab the feeds.

When I saw the key in PirateBay a few days ago I didn't think it would be soooo chaotic. Woot! I love Internet Dramas.

Cookie expresses my feelings completely .