Shoutbox

Ok... thank you all guys (and girls ) for being so nice and always ready to help... I think I'll try to make it if I really can't make it without IPGet I'll ask for permission.

My take on it: if someone sends a script with the functions in the .js source. You can use it anywhere and if you're nice (and have manners/ethic/etc) you'll mention where it came from and who made it.

If the guy really doesn't want anyone to use it he'll make a DLL and will not share the source with any of us. Like Pai did on the xniff thingie.

But if you don't want to directly copy and mention his name... maybe you could save the result in a text file and read the file with your script everytime you needed the ip or something.

Just an idea.

No... I haven't got any kind of problems in crediting him it's just that I think it would be awful if I'd copy the core of his script and just paste it in mine... So what you suggested is great... I'lll ask him for permission and also to make (or let me do so) a mod to the original script so it would output to a text file for mine to read it and this new script would have like two creators...

P.S- I'm thinking of use it to create a "closed window checker" to check if the other person has closed the window
I'm still studying it and don't know yet if by the ip connections I can find wether the window has been closed or not... By the way... I've heard about xniff and I think it can help me here can't it? by checking ip connections also? Can someone throw me a light on this? Thanks

A closed window notifier is as unreliable as an open window notifier.

The reason is the same: there is no way to check if the user has closed the window or if it was done by the protocol/Messenger.

And the other (same) reason: you can't know if it is a window that is closed or if it is something else. 'Closing a window' as such doesn't exist, it is closing a connection.

Please don't make the same mistake as many people do with open window notifiers and call it "closed window" notifier. That is completely inaccurate and only lets people believe it can detect closed windows. It can not... it can only check closed connections/sessions; and as such it would detect more than just 'closed windows'.

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Originally posted by Mnjul

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Originally posted by Volv
you don't really need their permission as the scripts by default come with an open source license

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Please tell me how you inferred this.

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by default it comes with no license, hence no restrictions

GNSPS,

Just a tip for you that I learned in the coupl months I've been here:

Always ask for help in the most straight way you can when you do it in here. I've seen only one or two cases where someone "Stole" an idea. Most of the time people will be really helpful and will cut directly to the chase of your problem making it MUCH easier for you to go ahead.

So if you want to detect close session .. ask for help in that and as you could see someone like Cookie will come and give you all the experience and show you why it will/won't work.

Other than that.. if you still wanna try .. Xniff will allow you to see the packets coming and leaving your MSN so by studying those packets you could find when someone closes a connection but as Cookie said it's not reliable, sometimes the protocol will close it, sometimes the other person will and sometimes it won't show but the other person closed... Xniff has an example in the Release post on how to use it and the whole thread has help about possible problems using it. Just search for Xniff and go to the first post.

Have fun!

Thank you all! For having been so supportive... In other forums I think people aren't this much helpful and "close" (and by this I mean like a big family ) You're great and thanks for these helpful replies once again and I promise I'll stay more focused on some posts that will appear and help as much as you guys did (or at least try to do so), contributing more for this big whole family spirit!

EDIT: I've read the Xniff post and it seems to be very unreliable and causeing too much trouble for MP!L that I think it would be better if I leave it alone and have some other idea for a new script ... though I don't know what to do Hoping in a next big release of MP!L maybe when a new messenger is also released Patchou will do something to provide us some even more powerful language! *Just dreaming around*