Shoutbox

unfortunately the release of Windows Live Messenger 2009 (9.0) has meant that the UI Files are to complicated for myself and Jason to figure out, also Jason lost all his software in an attempt to repair his laptop and i am not very good at graphics work.

therefore we are being forced to advertise for people posessing these required skills to join us at UK Skins United so that we can continue work on the 365 skin, without this much needed help we will no longer be able to make anymore skins.

thanks in advance, if anyone is interested in applying for these positions please either reply to this thread or email us at ukskinsunited@live.co.uk

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
unfortunately the release of Windows Live Messenger 2009 (9.0) has meant that the UI Files are to complicated for myself and Jason to figure out, also Jason lost all his software in an attempt to repair his laptop and i am not very good at graphics work.

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Let me get this straight... You guys can't skin 9, yet you want someone who can skin 9 and can create good graphics to join your group so that your group can have glory?

how much you paying ?

jason has always been our graphics expert until this problem with his laptop, and im the xml expert in that im good at doing the skininfo file, options panel and about box and coming up with new ideas for features and effects.

in 8.5 i primarily did the uifiles myself cause they were relatively simple, remember with 8.5 it was easier to learn these files cause people like willz had taken the time to write tutorials on them and skinning guides but as nobodys done that for 9.0 nor does anyone seem intent on doing so i need someone who is familiure with the new format to help us.

jason may still be able to do some graphics work so right now its more important to find a ui file coder familiure with 9.0. we are not saying we cant skin 9.0 at all just that we are having massive difficulties with the uifiles and without help it could take several years to learn the 9.0 format.

The format hasn't changed that much.  If you were able to skin 8.5 with relatively little trouble then at least try skinning 9....play around with it, there's only a few differences.

they maybe few in number but not in significance, some of the resources i was skinning before there numbers arent there anymore and without a resource bible for 9.0 which willz has already refused to do i have no way of determining where those resources went to.

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
they maybe few in number but not in significance, some of the resources i was skinning before there numbers arent there anymore and without a resource bible for 9.0 which willz has already refused to do i have no way of determining where those resources went to.

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Like what for example?

There's more people than Willz who know how to skin

Just ask a few questions to help you along the way to get started and then you should be fine from there.

Look here for a full list of which ids are which windows:

mynetx's reply to Definition and Styles Id's

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
they maybe few in number but not in significance, some of the resources i was skinning before there numbers arent there anymore and without a resource bible for 9.0 which willz has already refused to do i have no way of determining where those resources went to.

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Well its not that I refused, its more like I don't have the time to do so. Job + personal life + own side projects > documenting.

There's just too much going on in 9 for me to bother, not when I don't get paid for documenting stuff. I can't put that much time into something anymore without it having some kinda benefit career/money/improving skills wise.

Tbh it's really not that hard to find out what resource does what, most of the major ones you can easily spot out.

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Originally posted by davidpolitis
Let me get this straight... You guys can't skin 9, yet you want someone who can skin 9 and can create good graphics to join your group so that your group can have glory?

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When I read it the first time it sounded like that. I think the odds of finding someone is pretty low considering that those who are competent enough would have their own skins going on. Probably be better to keep on trying instead of waiting around.

Good Messenger Skinners are a rare breed.

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Originally posted by djdannyp

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
they maybe few in number but not in significance, some of the resources i was skinning before there numbers arent there anymore and without a resource bible for 9.0 which willz has already refused to do i have no way of determining where those resources went to.

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Like what for example?

There's more people than Willz who know how to skin

Just ask a few questions to help you along the way to get started and then you should be fine from there.

Look here for a full list of which ids are which windows:

mynetx's reply to Definition and Styles Id's

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basically what i mean is this, below is the definitions i used in 8.5:

920
923
947
949 (not in 9.0)
1001
1004 (not in 9.0)
1009 (not in 9.0)

then i used the following styles:

919
920
921
923
926
927
930
931
932
934
935
937
940
941
942
943
944
945
946
947
949
950
952
953
956
1001
1004
1009
44101
44102
44103
44104
45701
45703
45704
45710

my problem is not all of these are in 9.0 its not just knowing what windows are what number is knowing the 9.0 numbers in comparison to their 8.5 counterparts so i atleast know which style and definition files to save to my skins directory and search through, thats first and foremost the biggest problem im having with 9.0 once i get past that i will probably be ok again.

Do it the same way we all started skinning, find the image/string you want to edit in the resources, then just try and find a reference to it in a relevant style/definition file. Just because there aren't any 1004s or 1009s etc doesn't mean you can't do it.