Shoutbox

Yes I know that Windows Defender is an anti-malware program but i was saying i never liked or trusted any of the Microsoft's product, which is why i used Windows Defender & One Care as examples, because those are the other 2 Microsoft products related to this. Since you said you've never used paid products, maybe that's the reason why. I'm not saying free products have to be crap, Avira & Avast both have free versions and are very very efficient in doing what it does, especially Avira.

Comodo Internet Security is another must have, it comes with a great firewall and i'm sure many people will agree with me on this, an antivirus defense and internet defense, it's free as well.

And I KNOW what i'm talking about. Antiviruses DO display outgoing/incoming activity. Sure it sounds like something a firewall should do but antiviruses now days come with a lot of options, and i did mention that you can control what file or process accesses what part of your system, like your registry, or that if it tries to launch another program or another process, maybe global hooks (keyloggers usually) might try to access a certain file or SEND/RECEIVE (yes, like i said above already) files.

I've worked with keyloggers before and have used it myself on my own computer just to test it out for educational purposes, and i can confirm that keyloggers can secretly send or receive commands and logs from the victim's PC, to the PC of the person who is controlling it. Try Googling Perfect Keylogger for example, that's just one of the many ones out there.

Anyway, if a Firewall simply limits the connection, that's not enough, you want to remove the source as well, and by doing so GOOD antiviurses detect what a certain program is trying to do and find out exactly what it is, therefore it has the feature to detect certain established incoming/outgoing connections that are usually hidden without you noticing, that's what keyloggers do in fact, everything, all its process and connections, are fully hidden, not even the best firewalls can detect them and i know this from experience, that's why there are certain antiviruses that are good and should be used in conjunction with your anti-malware and firewall etc.


And that article was just an example of how I do my research and read reviews or charts from, i don't simply just grab any random antivirus program or any program for that matter just because someone tells me it's good. If a bunch of people tell me it's good and i've heard and read good things about it, then i try it. But anyway, if you go around some dedicated forums for dealing with antiviruses or Google for the top antiviruses of 2010, you can't even find any mentioning of Microsoft Security Essentials. Sure you gave those 2 sites, I read them but they don't sound very convincing and the features it talked about don't seem very promising either, and this is from LifeHacker, not a very good site for professional advice on dealing with antiviurses in my opinion, that's the site where I used to get all sorts of hacks from for certain softwares a few years ago, like Youtube or Gmail hacks etc.


Anyway, just to support what i've said, i actually uninstalled Threatfire, installed Microsoft Security Essentials, did a full update and before i go on, just to prove to you i did install and do the update, here's what my version shows:

Microsoft Security Essentials Version:  1.0.1611.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.0.6212.0
Engine Version: 1.1.5405.0
Antivirus definitions: 1.73.8.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.73.8.0


it should look the same as yours i hope.


So anyway, after doing all this, MSG Plus! Live still doesn't work.

Not only that, but i also tested out Microsoft Security Essentials, i did a full system scan and it found just one virus, which isn't even a virus, it's a trainer i use for a gamer so it's a false positive.

HOWEVER, i do know i have a few viruses, they're keygens and patches for programs (yes i know, warez, but i'm not specifically talking about it) and i know some of them aren't trustworthy, and i have tons of those that i actually know ARE viruses and kept them specifically for testing out any new antivirus/anti-malware programs just to see whether they're good at detecting them or not, and guess what, Microsoft Security Essentials didn't even find any of them, not one.


This easily proves to me it's weak and not powerful enough. Most antiviruses now days can probably only detect around 30%-40% of the most recent and newest viruses, and that's already bad as it is, so if an antivirus like this one, can't even find cracks/keygens/patches that contain trojans or hookers, they're not safe and good to use.


Anyway aside from all that, i've done everything suggested. So, what now?

Did you uninstall PC Tools Spyware Doctor too?

Also I suggested you may need to re-install Messenger Plus! Live afterwards

ya, i have done both. Also uninstalled WLM and tried it again, for some reason it just doesn't show up. However, whenever i tried an uninstall, it uninstalls fully instead of showing you the option to repair or modify it, so it's probably still not registered to WLM properly, otherwise it should show those options.

But it's weird because if i try to import skins or scripts, it gets imported but doesn't show up, if MSG Plus! Live isn't installed or registered, it shouldn't even be able to import anything....

No more suggestions anyone?? Guess i'll be switching to Pidgin then, that's unfortunate since i have so many scripts and skins i use for MSGPlus! Live......ah well i still have it installed on my other PCs anyway.

Post a screenshot of your Programs & Features as it's possible that there's some other software interfering with Messenger Plus! Live that we are unaware of

hey nvm i've already setup Pidgin, i might try Trillion as well just coz it has an extension of plugins and skins and i can use the pro version.

Thanks for your help anyway, i appreciate it. I think i know what's causing this problem, if Threatfire wasn't the case since i uninstalled it, then it must be Comodo Internet Security, coz those are the only 2 programs that i've replaced with my old antivirus/anti-malware, so they must be it since i haven't installed anything new at all other than restoring all my files from my backups.

I don't plan on uninstall Comodo though since it's one of the best firewall out there so i think it's too much trouble to go through all this just to use MSGPlus! Live when i just wanted to use some scripts and skins.....


oh btw Messenger Discovery Live works well with MSGPlus! Live, i forgot to mention this before. I've never had a problem with both of them running and have installed them together tons of times.