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O.P. Undecided  How can you see if someone opens your conversation box
hey..on mess.be there was a download where you could see if a person opened up ur convo box but i cant find it nemore and i was wondering if neone knows where i can find nething like that..thanks a bunch

Edit by Fraisie: Just changed the caps in the title :)

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02-26-2004 02:38 AM
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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
not possible on msn6 because the api (built in) detects when you close the window not if they open/close one

unless someone created an api that would detect it but thats another story lol
02-26-2004 03:17 AM
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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
It doesn't work with the API, it works with packet sniffing. You need to listen on port 1863 for BYE and IRO commands.... (<= EDIT: this has been changed in recent protocols AFAIK; principle stays the same though)

For as far as I know, there are six programs to do this.

Messenger Discovery and StuffPlug-NG are both programs which aren't dedicated to this feature. This means that they contain more features then showing who has opened and/or closed a conversation with you.

The other programs are dedicated. Thus, this means that they are specificly designed for this feature (and often have more features for this then the non-dedicated plugins)...


1a) An addon for MSN Messenger (by ecko_complex AKA effekt):
http://www.msnfanatic.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8194&st=0

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1b) An addon for MSN Messenger ("Messenger Discovery" by effekt) (I):
Big concurrent of StuffPlug-NG.

http://www.messengerdiscovery.com/
(Run the installer)
(Not a dedicated addin; It has many more non-related features...)



2a) A plugin for Messenger Plus! ("Notifier" by DJMystic AKA TheBlasphemer):
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=18415
(Place the DAT and DLL into your plugins directory, start the plugin with command /xnot)
(A new one is in the make, it will be included in "StuffPlug-NG")



2b) A plugin for Messenger Plus! ("StuffPlug-NG" by TheBlasphemer) (I):
Most used plugin.

http://www.stuffplug.com/
(Not a dedicated plugin; It has many more non-related features...)


3) A plugin for Messenger Plus! (uncompiled, by Hah):
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=21826
(Still alpha example version. You need to compile the source first with VB6.)


4) A plugin for Messenger Plus! ("OpenConvo" by Wouter) (I):
Most configurable notifier of all.

Old version: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=219848
(Place the EXE and DLL files in your plugins directory, register the DLL and run install.reg)

New version: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=28166
(Run the installer)


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All the notifier features in these addons/plugins were designed, tested and working in MSN Messenger 6.x.

If you want to know what the plugins exactly do and what the differences are, read the appropiate linked-to thread, don't ask here...

If you have any additions to this list, post them in this thread or PM me.

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SINCE THEN, THE PROTOCOL WHICH THESE NOTIFIERS RELIED UPON HAVE BEEN CHANGED GREATLY SO THEY DO NOT WORK ANYMORE, NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE CLAIM.

THEY DO NOT WORK ANYMORE, NOT WITH MSN MESSENGER 6, NOT WITH MSN MESSENGER 7, NOR WITH WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER OR WHATEVER.

(study the protocol before claiming anything else).

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02-26-2004 07:01 AM
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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
Arrh i thought i replyed to this.. but i guess i didnt there is one from DJMystic. and One From ecko_coplexe (something like that) The one from DJMystic is a Plus! Plugin and the one from ecko_c... is a exe. ill post them both on here so you can try em. they only work with windows XP as far as i know tho.

.zip File Attachment: Notifiers.zip (67.94 KB)
This file has been downloaded 1760 time(s).
02-26-2004 07:07 AM
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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
blah... didn't find a link for DJMystics one... but anyway, use the ones chris has put in the attachment... But please read the original threads before using them...

EDIT: link found for DJMystics Notifier, go to the dedicated thread....

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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
DJMystic's os very buggy, I don't suggest it at all, because it usually crashes Messenger and apparently tries to open up conversations with other contacts than the one who opens the window.

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DJMystic's os very buggy, I don't suggest it at all, because it usually crashes Messenger and apparently tries to open up conversations with other contacts than the one who opens the window.
That's the first time I hear this (on all the MSN forums)...
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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
He himself said it might be buggy since it's a beta, maybe I've got an old version. But he gave up developing plugins for MP! didn't he?
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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
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Originally posted by KeyStorm
He himself said it might be buggy since it's a beta, maybe I've got an old version. But he gave up developing plugins for MP! didn't he?
yeah but the bugs you're telling are really weird :-/

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apparently tries to open up conversations
I mean it's just a sniffer i think, what does a sniffer have to do with opening windows? :S

i think even crashing MSN is kinda weird :-/

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RE: HOW YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE OPENS UR CONVERSATION BOX
On his page with some of his plugins it said that it was not even beta but alpha and that stuff. but he aslos said that if you had the checkmark checked to try and open a convo with the person it would just give you a bunch of errors
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