My friend has chosen not to install Plus on his machine as he doesn't want "unnecessary stuff using up memory". While I would normally agree, I looked to see how much memory Plus is using, and its currently an amazingly small 280Kb

Just wondered how much memory people find its using? Easy enough to check in Task Manager for those of us with NT/2000/XP etc, and anyone with a relevant prog on 9x/ME.

Just want to some ammo to use against him. Thanks for the help guys and gals!

at this moment: 328Kb... biggest peek 2556Kb...
(/me slaps Jeronimo's friend)

Mine says 612K.  Even so, Plus! isn't exactly a huge memory stealing resource hogging program...it's an add-on for one.

If your friend thinks that is a lot of space he must be very low on hard-drive space, or is just making up excuses.  Ah well, it's his loss.

memory usage of a program has nothing to do with HDD-space or available RAM (well you can't use more then you have )

btw: I'm very curious of what your friends has as processes, Jeronimo...

508ko

mines using 2,148k at the moment

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Originally posted by musicalmidget
If your friend thinks that is a lot of space he must be very low on hard-drive space,

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
memory usage of a program has nothing to do with HDD-space

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I agree with you guys, he needs a slap. Means I can't use sounds with him, and the most annoying is not being able to use text formatting with him (bold, colours etc).

I agree that less is more, when it comes to installing stuff, but I think he is just making an excuse. Does him no harm to install it, and would allow him to "Experience the complete Messenger"™.

Nothing I do seems to make that 280Kb increase at the minute

I just made it decrease, but that's because I closed Messenger and Plus! because I'm going to bed...probably a good job judging by my last few posts.

Even so, I don't recall ever seeing the usage figure going higher than three digits...so it's still quite a small amount.

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Yes I did....
But that doesn't matter... A program will not use less/more total memory if you're harddisk is bigger or smaller... (and it doesn't matter if the memory is created virtually as a page-file or in real RAM)....

it really depends...... but right now 2.478

My Plus!:
Current memory use: 324 Kb
Private bytes (virtual memory): 908 Kb
Maximun usage: 2436 KB
But you have to count also the memory needed for the hook .DLLs
Anyway, Plus! doesn't take a lot of memory. (Messenger, for example, takes about 18Mb and noone complains )

Thanks for all your replies. I knew it didn't use much memory, but nice to have all your confirmations.

I'll prompt him again to see if he will install Plus, for my benefit if not his I do remember him saying he only really used to use Plus for the logging, but now MSN 6.x has it, he doesn't need Plus. Has anyone seen the size of the XMLs that MSN creates??!

the latest version of Plus! included some major changes to prevent it using as much memory. I can't code in C but It seems to me that all the main code is now in external DLLs and called from the main, 136KB, file.
MsgPlus is using 228KB on here atm with MSN 6.1 using an amazingly low 18404KB...
I seem to remember MsgPlus using around 8MB before these changes, btw

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Originally posted by MoRiA
I seem to remember MsgPlus using around 8MB before these changes,

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Yes MSN seems something of a memory hog, esp when compared to Plus. I'll make this known to my friend. The real hogs on my system are Firebird (I still love it!), and my firewall, which use circa 30Mb each!

I can't see Plus impacting on performance. It uses seemingly no processing power, and not much memory. I doubt startup times would dramatically increase after Plus is installed.

So thats another pat on the back for you Patchou!

msgplus.exe 700kb
msnmsgr.exe 16.552kb

(total ram 512mb)

mine varies from 2.9 to 200 kb
once the comp is restarted it uses more memory then in usual status

Right now Plus! is at 360K
MSN Messenger is at 1,908K

I'm sorry to break your bubble (french expression) but you can't estimate the real memory that is taken by an application by checking the Task Manager... Windows is an intelligent operating system that often doesn't take the time to clean objects in memory as long as it's not necessary. As a result, an application can seem to take 20 times the memory it is really taking.

msgplus.exe doesn't do anything at all  while it's running on your system, it's kept there for security reasons only. The process doesn't eats more than 128KB of real memory and has been specifically designed with memory constraints in mind (so that Plus! doesn't harm your system in any way and that you don't find excuses to remove it from the Windows startup and complain about other related problems ).

Messenger Plus! uses a noticeable amount of memory only in the Messenger process so you'll probably never be able to do a real estimate of its usage . Don't worry, memory optimization is one of those things I'm spending time on, even if I'm not talking about it. For what I've seen, Plus! uses around 1MB of memory in the Messenger process, which, I think, is ok as Messenger itself generally uses 15MB or more.

Thanks for the reply Patchou! I think what we can all agree is on, is that Plus doesn't use much in the way of resources

It is nice that you take memory optimisation into account, even in the days where RAM is cheap as chips (english expression )