Heh, subject seems a bit racy, but it's really alright i think.

I would like to be able to open the "messenger contact information" window and specify whether a particular contact is male or female, that way instead of saying "Jennifer may not reply because his or her status is set to away" it would just say "Jennifer may not reply because her status is set to away"... and so on and so forth.

There were more practical applications to this but I can't remember any right now

Anyway, if this is possible at all, I imagine it'd be fairly easy to implement. I'm crossing my fingers

Thanks again for the kickass addon, Patchou!

1 word: privacy...

yeah, but if you have a friend, You would know if they were a boy or girl. Like custom names. YOu can set it yourself.

Exactly, it'd be completely local. Hell, I could do the same thing with custom names already.

contact bob@bob.com custom name Bob (MALE)
contact wendy@whatever.com custom name Wendy (FEMALE)

etc.

I'm talking about local storage only, no information transmitted.

indeed, this has nothing todo with privacy... now you can write notes for each contact. This is just the same, only you tick a box male or female... Well, idea is good, but I don't think it is very practical, thus chances of implementation are nihil... unless Patchou has heaps of time and is bored

but it would also mean having to change MSN messengers stff, to get the wrods to change, wouldn't it??

hmmm... maybe, I dunno 'bout that... I mean, you could reshack it (it's becoming a verb now these days ), but maybe that isn't needed. Hooking and changing the string in memory should work.

(dodgy topic-titel though )

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Originally posted by lylesback2
1 word: privacy...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Well, idea is good, but I don't think it is very practical, thus chances of implementation are nihil... unless Patchou has heaps of time and is bored 

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Yeah...I like the sound of this...I think a plug-in maybe able to do this...

a plugin can't do that. that can only be done by Plus! itself

I mean a MSN Messenger Plugin...like Plus! Maybe if Will makes it Messenger Freedom!

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1 word: privacy...

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its in ppls profiles anyway im guessing that what ever program that did this would get the info from the msn profile, so if ya dont want ppl to know, just dont have anything in there for that 1..   anyway, hows that a privacy consern, like i walk down the street and ya can see if there male of female, its not like sumthing ya want hidden from anyone

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i dont understand why youd need that ... if the person is on your contact list why would you need it to tell you their gender.. dont you kno if they're a guy or a girl already? and just check their profile if you REALLY want to kno

lylesback2, _indent, you're missing the point I think....

The purpose is to make 2 buttons in the "Contact Information" panel:
[ ] male
[ ] female

The information is added by YOU ONLY, not by Plus! or any other means... So this hasn't anything to do with privacy. It is just an addition to the "personal notes". YOU have to find out (by asking or whatever) if the contact is male or female, then you can tick the right box.

The purpose of this could be to quickly view if someone is male or female. For example, I have many people in my contactlist which I only know by nick. To be honest, I don't know the gender of some (and I don't have to know it). But once asked, I could remind myself with this. This can also be done with the "Personal Notes" but =>

Plus! can also use this information (the ticked boxes) to determine the contact's gender and can use it to alter the display of some MSN Messenger messenges like "Jennifer may not reply because his or her status is set to away" to "Jennifer may not reply because her status is set to away"...

Yes, that's exactly what I mean, CookieRevised!

Now, as for the profile stuff that's been mentioned, it would be interesting if the local, personal contact information could have the option of being automatically set by the contact's profile, but it shouldn't depend on it because I have many contacts that do not have profiles at all.

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Now, as for the profile stuff that's been mentioned, it would be interesting if the local, personal contact information could have the option of being automatically set by the contact's profile, but it shouldn't depend on it because I have many contacts that do not have profiles at all.

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i still think it's a waste of time... and pedafiles can click female and really be a 40 year old guy.  I think it's better not to add this.

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i still think it's a waste of time... and pedafiles can click female and really be a 40 year old guy.  I think it's better not to add this.

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This request has nothing to do with privacy..it's all a matter of preference. If you are against this, then you HAVE to be against custom names and contact notes, as it is basically the same thing.

You're contacts will not see what you have labeled them as, and if they don't like it? too bad. You have a right to go around labeling things you own, whatever you want. No one can stop you. But once you invade their privacy, a whole new story begins.

In conclusion, this has nothing what-so-ever to do with privacy. But I do recommend that, if this feature IS implemented, it be allowed that only your contact may set their gender. As well it may lead to certain contraversial debates and discussions -- even though most things do anyway.

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This request has nothing to do with privacy..it's all a matter of preference. If you are against this, then you HAVE to be against custom names and contact notes, as it is basically the same thing.

You're contacts will not see what you have labeled them as, and if they don't like it? too bad. You have a right to go around labeling things you own, whatever you want. No one can stop you. But once you invade their privacy, a whole new story begins.

In conclusion, this has nothing what-so-ever to do with privacy. But I do recommend that, if this feature IS implemented, it be allowed that only your contact may set their gender. As well it may lead to certain contraversial debates and discussions -- even though most things do anyway.

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See attachment..

Like this??

(attachment copyright 2004 dbjdesigns)

i like this idea.. ...

djdesigns... the little male/female simbol is a good, but bad idea cause thats where the webcam image goes ... ... but it next to the webcam image.. yea.. but not there


you lot should stop trying to get andrew (lylesback2) to understand this thread.. once his mind is set.. it's set.. you cant change it very easily.. he's stubourn

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
indeed, this has nothing todo with privacy... now you can write notes for each contact. This is just the same, only you tick a box male or female... Well, idea is good, but I don't think it is very practical, thus chances of implementation are nihil... unless Patchou has heaps of time and is bored

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Originally posted by NoName
More like radio button if u ask me

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Originally posted by Choli
a radio button can't be unticked and maybe you would like to unselect it, so the best would be 2 checkboxes, that way you also could select both to mean "this person is gay"

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Or it could mean it's a bot

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Originally posted by CholiIn spanish, for example, we only have "he" and "she" )

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Originally posted by Vaitork
Uhm... Does "eso" sound familiar to you?

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True

I like the idea, i would like it to work like Plus! Profile: You set the gender of your contacts and your contacts set yours... In other words, you are not able to say YOU are male or female, but your contacts (i think that is what lylesback2 doesn't get)

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I like the idea

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IT IS GREAT

really

Looking at the info on this, in ordr for Patchou to fix this, he'd have to hack 100% into MSN Messenger.  The message that you're trying to fix is set in the mslang.dll file, pretty hard to change on the fly IMO, unless someone else has an idea.

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The message that you're trying to fix is set in the mslang.dll file,

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i still think it's a waste of time... and pedafiles can click female and really be a 40 year old guy.  I think it's better not to add this.

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I think you're still missing the point of this... Try to reread the thread a couple of times...

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The message that you're trying to fix is set in the mslang.dll file,

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I think we are talking about the messages of Plus, not the ones of Messenger, aren't we?

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I think we are talking about the messages of Plus, not the ones of Messenger, aren't we?

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I think we are talking about the messages of Plus, not the ones of Messenger, aren't we?

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uhm... are we? now that i think about it.. i think boonebytes could be right.. i don't know if it's worth it if Patch has to work that much to figure out such a little thing..

on the other hand, Patchou is well know to take care even of the smaller details so... go Patch&Plus!

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i don't know if it's worth it if Patch has to work that much to figure out such a little thing..

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Or it could mean it's a bot

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in that case you shouldn't tick any box and plus should display "... has changed its name to..." and that kind of messages (of course only in languages where there is an "it". In spanish, for example, we only have "he" and "she" )

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about translating:
Since the initial idea was to alter the messages on top of the convo, we only have to translate "his/hers" like this:
  MalePrefix=blahblah his blahblah
  FemalePrefix=blahblah hers blahblah
  BothPrefix=blahblah its blahblah
  Undisclosed=blahblah his/hers blahblah

The messages could be hooked, there's no need to patch/alter anything. (I think)

though it would be a mess cause in the spanish translation we dont use these prefixes..

yes, i managed to do so

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though it would be a mess cause in the spanish translation we dont use these prefixes..

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yes, i managed to do so

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Or just send it all to hell and change it like this:

Vaitork aparece como desconectad@ y puede que no conteste
Somegirl aparece como desconectad@ y puede que no conteste

Done

I know... Damn lame...

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Vaitork aparece como desconectad@ y puede que no conteste
Somegirl aparece como desconectad@ y puede que no conteste

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Es poco profesional, teniendo en cuenta que la traduccion a español españa se caracteriza por su profesionalidad () y por su lenguaje formal y bien escrito

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that adds an "e"

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Well, idea is good, but I don't think it is very practical, thus chances of implementation are nihil... unless Patchou has heaps of time and is bored 

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yep, and also we should update our translations... too much work if you can use the contact notes

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I agree with bach_m Privacy