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Hooray for runtime errors! by billywoods1 on 03-16-2004 at 10:17 PM

Right... erm... see screenshot. :P Basically happens when I visit threads. They come up several times a second. I only manage to get round it by holding 'n' (for no) and clicking each box, then the stop button. :mipdodgy:

Edit: argh, that's a big file. Sorry. :$


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by lizard.boy on 03-16-2004 at 10:26 PM

i got that once. then msn and plus crashed.. never happened aagin. i blamed it on msn handwriting


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by Johnny_Mac on 03-16-2004 at 10:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lizard.boy
i got that once. then msn and plus crashed.. never happened aagin. i blamed it on msn handwriting
You got the same run-time error from Plus! as billy apparently got from the forums? :undecided:
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by WDZ on 03-16-2004 at 10:29 PM

What the...?

Runtime error? Isn't that for visual basic or something? ^o)


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by kao on 03-16-2004 at 11:19 PM

i didnt even think you could get a runtime error from a website unless it had some dodgy code (im sure wdz isn't a nasty person (A)), u sure its caused by the forums? dodgy IE big?

Try reinstalling IE or something... maybe its just fux0rd







(Im Famous! :banana:)


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by matty on 03-16-2004 at 11:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
What the...?

Runtime error? Isn't that for visual basic or something? ^o)


No its a C++ program, vb programs dont give you the option of debugging. More then likley you had a BHO on your computer that attaches it self to IE.

A Browser Helper Object, or BHO, is just a small program that runs automatically every time you start your Internet browser.  Usually, a BHO is installed on your system by another software program.  For example, Go!Zilla, the downloading utility, installs a BHO created by Radiate (formerly Aureate Media); this BHO tracks which advertisements you see as you surf the Web.



The natural question is, what do BHOs do?  The technical answer is "anything", but generally, it will have something to do with helping you browse the Internet.   Of course, some BHOs are what is called "ad-ware" or "spyware": they do things like monitor the websites you visit and report this data back to their creators.



Although many people are extremely concerned about them because of the privacy issue, BHOs are not necessarily bad things, and most of them are well-intentioned and beneficial.  For example, the P3P ("Platform for Privacy Preferences") program spearheaded by the W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) and major vendors, including Microsoft, AT&T, and IBM, will be delivered as a BHO.  Some BHOs, however, are placed secretly on your system, and there is certainly no technical reason why they could not be programmed to send information about your system (or your web surfing habits) over the Internet without your knowledge.



Also, there is no restriction on what a BHO can do your system; it can do anything any other program can do: read or write (or delete) anything on your system.  Usually, software is installed on your system explicitly by you; when you do so, you are, in effect, saying that you trust the vendor.  BHOs, however, have a history of being installed without the users knowledge (fine print notwithstanding)



Given that (a) BHOs can do absolutely anything to your system, and (b) they are often installed without your knowledge, there is a distinct potential for abuse by vendors.  The problem is, until now you had no way of knowing which BHOs are on your machine, who put them there, and what they do.  This is what BHODemon does - it lets you easily manage your BHOs, and tells you what each BHO on your system is doing.

Credit http://www.definitivesolutions.com/bhodemon.htm



To remove them just run the attached app or click Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Uncheck Enabled third-party browser extensions.

If you deactivate a BHO you need to reinstall the entire program before you can use it again.

RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by wj on 03-17-2004 at 12:40 AM

I'm guess'n it's DZ's avatar resizer


RE: RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by matty on 03-17-2004 at 01:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wj
I'm guess'n it's DZ's avatar resizer


That in which i doubt because a BHO is a physical EXE running everytime you open IE that runs in the background.

But then again, quite possibly could be since I am not sure how he actually coded it.
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by wj on 03-17-2004 at 03:02 AM

I know that. I've written a few.

But I think the errors are comming from the avatar resizer because it's happening when loading avatars.


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by WDZ on 03-17-2004 at 03:35 AM

I had a feeling it was the resizer, but still... why a "runtime error"? It's only javascript and HTML... shouldn't it be a "script error"?

I count 26 or 27 popups... the thread he's viewing only has 21 replies, and probably fewer avatars... :S

It might help to know if all the errors are on the same line... also what happens when you click debug? Maybe that program will debug it for me... :lol:

That browser looks like IE6, and I've tested the script in it (as well as Opera 7 and NS 6)... worked fine. :-/


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by lizard.boy on 03-17-2004 at 03:42 AM

i still think that its the msn handwriting because i also got that many errors and msn crashed


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by Mnjul on 03-17-2004 at 05:12 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lizard.boy
i still think that its the msn handwriting because i also got that many errors and msn crashed
We are talking about the forums and the handwriting plugin's worlds apart :-/
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by lizard.boy on 03-17-2004 at 05:15 AM

i know that thats why i think your all wrong. i doubt that the js scropt for the advitars is messing it up. but i did get that same thing happening with msn handwriting :undecided: w/e ignore me then


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by WDZ on 03-17-2004 at 05:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mnjul
We are talking about the forums and the handwriting plugin's worlds apart :-/
But the errors could have come from something else... just stole the focus from IE... :-/
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by Mnjul on 03-17-2004 at 05:39 AM

I think billy should've pressed Yes and see what on earth was going on :S


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by matty on 03-17-2004 at 01:55 PM

Just realized how he can prevent it...

Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Check Disable Script Debugging
as well as
Uncheck Display a notification about every script error


Matty


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by WDZ on 03-17-2004 at 03:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ---+[Matty]+---
Just realized how he can prevent it...

Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Check Disable Script Debugging
as well as
Uncheck Display a notification about every script error

But before he does that, he should try the debug thing and post the results, so I'll know what's wrong with the script... :p

Edit: Argh... I just went into IE6 and did the reverse of what you said, and there's still no error. :dodgy:
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by CookieRevised on 03-19-2004 at 09:21 AM

To take WDZ of the hook, it can't be the javascript, that's for sure.
A) Javascript doesn't give runtime errors.
B) If there was an error in javascript, the errorline would be from the script, and there aren't 339 lines in any script used when viewing threads.

There is nothing wrong with the (X)HTML of the threads...


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by WDZ on 03-19-2004 at 04:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
B) If there was an error in javascript, the errorline would be from the script, and there aren't 339 lines in any script used when viewing threads.
MyBB's HTML output for a thread can have that many lines though... what if the error occurs when my resize function is called from the <img> tag? :^)

quote:
There is nothing wrong with the (X)HTML of the threads...
I'm sure if you tried the W3C validator on it, there would be hundreds of errors... :p
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by Tochjo on 03-19-2004 at 04:48 PM

[eh, could-be-spam-though-I-say-it-is-not-really]

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
I'm sure if you tried the W3C validator on it, there would be hundreds of errors... :p
Blah, that asks for a try :P

This page is not Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
Anyone wanna guess the number of errors before they click the link? :P

[/eh, could-be-spam-though-I-say-it-is-not-really]
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by wj on 03-19-2004 at 05:10 PM

504 Errors for only 952 Lines of code? I'm amazed the page renders at all :refuck:


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by Tochjo on 03-19-2004 at 05:14 PM

:lol:

Edit: with every post, errors are added :lol:


RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by WDZ on 03-19-2004 at 05:46 PM

:p Dodgy MyBB HTML... :dodgy:

If I wrote all the XHTML, it would be valid... I don't have that kind of time though... :p


RE: RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by CookieRevised on 03-22-2004 at 10:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
B) If there was an error in javascript, the errorline would be from the script, and there aren't 339 lines in any script used when viewing threads.
MyBB's HTML output for a thread can have that many lines though... what if the error occurs when my resize function is called from the <img> tag? :^)

A) There is nothing wrong with the calling of the Javascript routine (onload="imgresize(this);").
B) If there was an error, then it also would happen on the first occurence of the calling, which is only after +-100 lines of HTML-code.
C) And an error in javascript gives a linenumber in the script. And because the script is loaded after a few lines, it can't be +300...

quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
There is nothing wrong with the (X)HTML of the threads...
I'm sure if you tried the W3C validator on it, there would be hundreds of errors... :p

Yeah... but W3C is also very strict and browsers are forgiving. The errors have nohing todo with the runtime error mentionned.
RE: Hooray for runtime errors! by WDZ on 03-23-2004 at 03:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
A) There is nothing wrong with the calling of the Javascript routine (onload="imgresize(this);").
B) If there was an error, then it also would happen on the first occurence of the calling, which is only after +-100 lines of HTML-code.
C) And an error in javascript gives a linenumber in the script. And because the script is loaded after a few lines, it can't be +300...
OK, if you say so... (y) :p

* WDZ waits for billywoods1's next reply.

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Yeah... but W3C is also very strict and browsers are forgiving. The errors have nohing todo with the runtime error mentionned.
Yeah, I know the HTML works and shouldn't cause errors, but technically there are things wrong with it. :p