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Returned mail: see transcript for details by lylesback2 on 05-08-2004 at 04:47 PM

MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <200405081410.i48EAMl0013129@gandalf.alcom.aland.fi>
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

quote:
The original message was received at Sat, 8 May 2004 17:09:49
+0300
from ACB0DB61.ipt.aol.com [172.176.219.97]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors
-----
<domainname@aland.com>
(reason: 550 <domainname@aland.com>... User unknown)

----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to screamer.farleden.aland.fi.:
>>> RCPT Todomainname@aland.com>
<<< 550 <domainname@aland.com>... User unknown
550 5.1.1 <domainname@aland.com>... User unknown

From: <****@hotmail.com>
To: domainname@aland.com
Subject: Re: Approved document
Sent: May 8, 2004 10:09:52 AM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: from aland.com (ACB0DB61.ipt.aol.com [172.176.219.97])by gandalf.alcom.aland.fi (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i48E9ml0013125for <domainname@aland.com>; Sat, 8 May 2004 17:09:49 +0300
Return-Path: <****@hotmail.com>
Message-Id: <200405081409.i48E9ml0013125@gandalf.alcom.aland.fi>
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Your document is attached.

+++ Attachment: No Virus found
+++ MessageLabs AntiVirus - www.messagelabs.com

Name of File document.zip
Virus Scan Result W32/Netsky.p@MM Virus Found
LOL!

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by kao on 05-08-2004 at 04:53 PM

i get those all the time lol, along with things like

"the document you requested" *attachment: document.zip*

"i've read your document and attached an updates version with fixes and such" *attachmen: document.zip*

and about 20 or 30 more varients lol

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by lylesback2 on 05-08-2004 at 06:56 PM

i get them alot too.. but that was a nice attempt, but i knew alot about accepting stupid shit
"+++ Attachment: No Virus found
+++ MessageLabs AntiVirus - www.messagelabs.com" LOL that might fool complete idiots, but when you got a hotmail account, its sort of a stupid thing to attempt to send this stuff

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by CookieRevised on 05-09-2004 at 02:17 PM

Join the club

I recieve +-30 emails like that per day on my msgplus email... It took a while to teach the spamfilter to reconize all the tons of variants of it

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by Varish on 05-09-2004 at 02:44 PM

I receive this too, but i wonder how these are sent. Are they sent from infected users or somethin like that?

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by Kryptonate on 05-09-2004 at 04:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Join the club

I recieve +-30 emails like that per day on my msgplus email... It took a while to teach the spamfilter to reconize all the tons of variants of it

I hardly get any spam on my msgplus account :-/

quote:
Originally posted by Chloe
I receive this too, but i wonder how these are sent. Are they sent from infected users or somethin like that?

Programs search the internet for e-mailadresses and use the ones they found to fill in the "From"-line. So if an e-mailadress attacked by the virus doesn't exist or an account is full you often get a error e-mail back with the e-mail in it (and so the virus too)

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by CookieRevised on 05-09-2004 at 06:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kryptonate
I hardly get any spam on my msgplus account -

duh... Nobody knows yours

......... look at my sig

I'm pretty sure that that's the reason for my daily virusses

quote:
Originally posted by Kryptonate
Programs search the internet for e-mailadresses and use the ones they found to fill in the "From"-line. So if an e-mailadress attacked by the virus doesn't exist or an account is full you often get a error e-mail back with the e-mail in it (and so the virus too)

true, but the comic thing about it is that even these bounced mails are mimiced by the virus

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by Kryptonate on 05-09-2004 at 06:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
duh... Nobody knows yours

poor me

(

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
true, but the comic thing about it is that even these bounced mails are mimiced by the virus

do spam filters stop these too or not? *-)

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by CookieRevised on 05-09-2004 at 07:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kryptonate
do spam filters stop these too or not?

Depends, in most (decent) emailclients you need to "teach" the spamfilters. So, I've done that and by now the filter is pritty accurate (only 1 or 2 mails out of +-30 aren't reconized)...

Every time you tag a mail as being spam, the filter gets better and betterin my mailclient; The big annoyence with this virus is that it has so many variants and texts that it sends, so the inteligent automatic filters (the ones you need to teach) take a relative long time in reconizing all these... (a normal standard spammail can be reconized 100% correct after tagging a couple of the same spammails)

All this of course on clientside, it would be much better if there was a spamchecker/filter and virusfilter on the mailserver so you didn't get these in the first place.... but then again I like to know what is being send to my mailaccount, even if it is spam...

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by Patchou on 05-09-2004 at 07:50 PM

SpamAssins blocks almost everything (I get more than 200 spam every day), I recommended it for all of you

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by saralk on 05-09-2004 at 08:28 PM

ive got that, but its a server side thing so u need to get the host to install it.

RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details by Guido on 05-15-2004 at 05:56 AM

I use SpamBayes for Outlook, it's trainable and great.

Is there any way to train spamassasin? It gave more false positives than actual spam messages on our server, I DO NOT recommend it at all :-/