I was hoping someone else whould have this idea or suggestion:

I use the MSN messenger quite often to tranfer some files to my other pals online. You can have 3 active filetransfers (up or down) at a time. This is a handy option of the messenger and i use it a lot.

BUT....

Imagine this: You are transferring a quite large file whiche takes quite a while to complete. In the mean time you keep on chatting with your pal and a while later you wonder what the status of the transfer is.
Right now, the only way is to scroll wayyyyyy back up to find the filetransfer in the window. This on itself it quite annoying, but if your pal sends you a message while you are scrolling, the chat window autoimatically returns to the end-line of the chat..... so you can start scrolling all over again.... VERY annoying!!

So, what i would like as a new option in MsgPlus, is a filetransferstatus, somewhere in a fixed place in the chatwindow (for instance in the same bar the MgsPlus developers put the new MsgPlus menu icon).
These icons can be very simple icons when you click or point at it, you get the exact details of the filetransfer.
(or something like that). You can make an upload-icon green and a download optionyellow, for instance.

Like i said, i was surprised that no-one has asked this before, so now i will

So, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,  add this feature........ I would considder that an other "in your face, Microsoft" response to the msn developers.... lol

In a old version or Windows Messenger you could see how much of the file was left to send (in bytes/kbytes/mbytes)

Right! in the old versions, microsoft had that covered... but since version 6, there are no usefull statuses..... now you can't monitor the transfer easily anymore.... the only way is to scroll way back up towads the transfer
So is MsgPlus would have this option put in, in their way, it would be another triumph for th MsgPlus team...

After all, most of us use MNS 6 now, so, this would be a good option

i dunno if its possible to implement such feature, but its certainly a very good idea

Btw, nice nickname

Sounds as good as it sounds impossible to implement

Hey the team of MsgPlus has done MANY things that were thought impossible... but they did it anyway!

Creating that icon is childsplay, they've shown that with the new menu-icon in version 3 of Plus!..... so an icon the same way, but now one that can monitor the filetransfers (it should be possible to monitor the msn's own transferstatur, in the background...... i think

i have noticed some other people use the nam chrono... so i adjusted min a bit (long time ago_........ it used to be a nickname specially for my mobile phone for many years (hence the GSM part), but it kinda got stuck everywhere, and that seemed to be a nunique name... lol ... so u use it everywhere now

the idea is good, i agree that plus should add that option. however the best would be that microsoft adds that feature itself

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
Right now, the only way is to scroll wayyyyyy back up to find the filetransfer in the window. This on itself it quite annoying, but if your pal sends you a message while you are scrolling, the chat window autoimatically returns to the end-line of the chat..... so you can start scrolling all over again.... VERY annoying!!

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
Hey the team of MsgPlus has done MANY things that were thought impossible... but they did it anyway!

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Originally posted by Chrono
Btw, nice nickname

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First of all, i applaud the work of Patchou...  He know exactly the things people want..... i only whish MSN had that same dedication to the people.

And i know MSN should be the one to implement this, and i have spend a few mails about this, and the only reply i got was "we will discuss this with our development team"
This was at the very beginning of MSN6, even in the bèta stage.... and now we have version 6.2, but still no imporvement in that particular option.

So now i put all my hopes on Patchou

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Originally posted by lhunath
Sounds as good as it sounds impossible to implement

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
Hey the team of MsgPlus has done MANY things that were thought impossible... but they did it anyway!

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ok ok.... you said it sounds impossible... not that it IS impossible.... lol

Well let's leave it to Patchou to decide if it is or isn't

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
ok ok.... you said it sounds impossible... not that it IS impossible.... lol

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i haven't found a command like that, but it would be a way of implementing this option..... but if he can get that to work, it would be childsplay to add an extra icon somewhere on the bar.... The hard thing is to make the status work, i would think.... so if he would get that to work it would be VERY nice to make an icon for it as well....

yeah to think it SEEMS esay, i dunno how hard it is myself but if he got the icon in there...... this would be such a nice feature

This is what MSN should have made file transfers look like:



What do you think?

yeah, thats looks nice and plesent.

hey that looks nice indeed.. so you want advanced filetransfers.. that's a good idea.. what about pause/resume transfers... i know that a program (you know where i'm talkin'bout ) had plans to do this.. so it can be done ..and i've read that patchou has an idea how to do this... so hé maybe we gonna get advanced transfering with plus and also status indication (maybe with transfer speed, dunno it's possible).. now indeed that would be nice 

well anyways let's see what patchou has got to say...

Yessss, now we're talking!  , A good idea on how it should look like, someone else that has extra idea's for advanced transfer options like pause/resume...... GREAT!

Let's keep this up guys, let's make this a revolutionary new option in MSN / MsgPlus!

oops!!! i edited the poll (corrected a typing error) and now the votes have been reset(!?!?) It was on 14 (should be more i would say... lol)

Anywayzzz.... anyone that voted, please re-vote

oops!!! i edited the poll (corrected a typing error) and now the votes have been reset(!?!?) It was on 14 (should be more i would say... lol)

Anywayzzz.... anyone that voted, please re-vote

* Millenium_edition said yes
elliot: that would be great

wow...i think thats pretty kool! is there any way of making a plugin or sum kind of addon to msn to enable u to pause and resume file transfers?

Are there more ideas on what the status should show?
As the example posted by elliot, that's a good start!

For advanced features... let's hear some ideas like,
-speed,
-total bytes (remaining)
-total time (remaining),
-pause/resume,
-breaking the max. 3 transfers limit
-mp3 or jpg or mpg or bmp preview

etc.

keep it coming

P.S.
Let's hope Patchou can make our dreams com true..... lol

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
Like i said, i was surprised that no-one has asked this before, so now i will

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
-mp3 or jpg or mpg or bmp preview

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seems like a great idea, only a pain in the a** to implement (the display of the file transfers in the dialog box), i've asked around and the resuming of file transfers is quite possible (even pathou said so) but the others is kinda hard.

p.s.  there is already a thread in the forums relating 2 resuming and pausing of file transfers

Ok, JPEGS are previewd as a thumbnail... that's ok for me... but it would be nice to have MPG and MP3 to have previewd as well listen, or look at a portion that has already been transferred.

Pause and resume is nice, but the one thin i want is an easy accessable way to watch the transfer statuses

i think its a very gd idea dn i ahve suggested it b4 as well

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
-speed,
-total bytes (remaining)
-total time (remaining),
-pause/resume,

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that looks like a very very gd idea if it coud look liekt hat then id be a happy man

That would screw up the conv window for people using a bigger DP...

This is a good idea (It was requested before, but I hope it will finally be implanted someday).

However, I think it'd be better to make this as a toast pop-up, because many people I know have large DP's, so the transfer stats as they are shown in the screenshot wouldn't show correctly...

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Originally posted by lhunath
That would screw up the conv window for people using a bigger DP...

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Only way it could be done is by port sniffing and still thats pushing it, and as everyone said it would screw up the convo window with bigger dps, now another window could be used that would store them all, and again there is lots of room for error so...

Ok, if i understand correctly, everyone agrees there should be some kind of transfer status. The only thing left is how it should look like.

But as a seperate windows (like a toast-popup), that becomes messy... i have seen that with other messengers and if you have multiple chatwindows, with a filetransfer from each pal, it will become very messy and hard to tell which is from whom.
afterall, we don't want too many open windows on our desktop

But perhaps it can be made in several stages in the active chatwindow, that can be selected in the options menu on which one you prefer.
1/ a simple icon for each transfer in the chatwindow (for thos who don't want to mess up their window)
2/ a progressbar
3/ a full detailed bar/section in the chatwindows

perhaps when it's begun with step 1, you can pulldown, more options or properties.... and that with every stage....

Just put the different stages in the options menu and let the user decide wich one they prefer (even if you prefer toast popups). That way, everyone is happy

What your not understanding is that the only way of doing it is using a port sniffer, But the port sniffer wont be able to tell you which transfer you are getting the data from if you can get any data from it at all.

If a portsniffer is the only way, then how does MSN itself keep track on which transfer is on how many bytes have been send?

I'm not a programmer, but it seems to me like those main resources are already available in msn itself, just not visible like we would want to.

Like many options in msn (emoticons, colors, contactnames, statuses, etc) have been tapped into, or copied. Why should this be any different?
MSN has already a progressbar for every transfer, just on a very awkward place.

MsgPlus has not only added features of msn, but also made existing features more accessable and more enhanced.

To me, this would be one of those things...

But hey, then again, i'm not a programmer, i just use logic... lol

I don't mean to disagree with you, but it's just me, when someone says something is impossible, i will always look for proof to show nothing is impossible ... lol....     

Even when someone says, "it's impossible except if you do 1 thing"

Reviewing history i noticed there were always more solutions to a mission impossible..... It's only afterwards that people tend to see that..... That is why i never agree with something beïng impossible.

(erhmmmmm did anyone understand this jibberish? cause i seem to have lost track.. lol  )

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Originally posted by ChronoGSM
I don't mean to disagree with you, but it's just me, when someone says something is impossible, i will always look for proof to show nothing is impossible ... lol....     

Even when someone says, "it's impossible except if you do 1 thing"

Reviewing history i noticed there were always more solutions to a mission impossible..... It's only afterwards that people tend to see that..... That is why i never agree with something beïng impossible.

(erhmmmmm did anyone understand this jibberish? cause i seem to have lost track.. lol  )

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Very very good idea, this is also something I miss a lot.

Althoutgh elliot's design looks very sweet, it's pretty undoable, I think, here is somethin' more realistic:



Icon appeares when you send/recieve a file (or 3), and if you point to it, you see a balloon displayin' information about file transfer.

This is pretty doable, I'm sure. If Patchou could place the icon, he can do the same for file fransfer, and reading percentage and kb/s must not be a big problem

heres an idea.. turning the event log - recent activity window into a tabbed window (upon the event of more then one tab)


and this would be a cetral place for some plugins with different features..

where plugins could creat a frame for that to be tabbed to


so then we could have a window like event logger (well the same one, just a different tab) to display it all

and have a bunch of sortable tabs, like most downloading apps, such as:

user, direction (up/down), average speed, current speed, peak speed, progress (bar, percent), remaining (time/bytes), total size, time stats (Start, time so far, estimated completion)


and it would turn into a sort of maniger, allowing downloads/uploads to sit in que (top to bottem que list i assume)

the ability to set downloads to start/request when users come online

if the ability to pause and resume downloads exists, this would be a PERFECT way to display them all from all users

Id love to see something like that, either way. Now we just need someone to code a plugin. And that sure aint gonna be me cuz i suck at programing

there must b sumone out there who can do it. they seem to have bin able to loadsa fantastic stuff b4!

im confident that sum1 will come along and make dis, its obviously wanted by loadsa ppl!

Why do I feel this is never going to be implemented?

I'v send a email to the team of msn messenger to add this in the new version and they said they would talk about it but i don't feel like they will make it  but we ccan always hope for this function in a msn messenger 6.2 upgrade or something

i know someone has been working on using a different file transfer protocoll for resuming and things like that, so im sure implimenting the organization/interface side will be alot easier, then implimenting the new way to transfer files

that would be great! but.. what say patchou about it..?

well realistically the only thing patchou has to do is allow plugins to use a tabbed version of that window, otherwise plugin writers can simply write there own window

i hope it will work out what you are plannig to bring in msgplus 3 update and i hope also that it will be a great succes (Well i guess it will be a succes ) keep on going thinking like that

ChronoGSM this is an excellent idea...I like it a lot..
I too find it annoying

I do believe that it will be possible. It will be a matter of creating the icon and telling the software when the cursor is hovering to show the details..then it will transfer the details from the top (Where-ever it's sending) and just copying that and putting it in a box...
I like both the image design's - they are very good...I like Pure_BY's a lot...it's descrete and easy to access...
On the other hand, I like elliot's idea - this is good but could get a little clogged and disturb you a fair bit if you are typing...but still, it's a good idea...

I hope Patcho implement's this...it's a great idea...