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MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by Tassu on 06-03-2004 at 01:33 PM
Situation: Running both MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger at the same time with two different accounts.
Problem: No logs and no event window in Windows Messenger.
Noticed this a while back when I started to use another account with Windows Messenger. When I try to view a log file in a WinM conversation, Plus replies "An internal error occurred. Logging is temporarily disabled for this chat. Try to reinstall Messenger if the problem persists."
Though WinM is kind of an obsolete version already, there's probably no possibilities to fix this?
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by GiantSpider on 06-03-2004 at 01:54 PM
You could use polygamy or a loader like jrnz. These make it possible to run more than 1 MSN Messenger.
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by Choli on 06-03-2004 at 02:52 PM
You have to start WIndows Messenger before than MSN Messenger and Plus will work with both, else it will only work with msn messenger 
RE: RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by Tassu on 06-09-2004 at 03:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Choli
You have to start WIndows Messenger before than MSN Messenger and Plus will work with both, else it will only work with msn messenger
Well...cool, that really works! Now I'm like so hyped up I don't know what to say =) Thanks very much =)
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by Choli on 06-09-2004 at 10:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tassu
I don't know what to say
it's ok only saying thanks It's nice see happy people when they solve their problems with your help. 
Thanks to you !
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by cgwaters on 09-15-2004 at 07:12 PM
quote:What's the best way to control this? Is configuring both Windows Messenger (5.0) and MSN Messenger (6.0) to start automatically unwise in this scenario?
You have to start WIndows Messenger before than MSN Messenger and Plus will work with both, else it will only work with msn messenger
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by Choli on 09-15-2004 at 08:48 PM
quote:you can disable the option "Start messenger when Windows starts" in both messengers (or, at least, in msn msg) and then you start them manually in the right order.
Originally posted by cgwaters
What's the best way to control this? Is configuring both Windows Messenger (5.0) and MSN Messenger (6.0) to start automatically unwise in this scenario?
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by Vantage on 09-15-2004 at 09:27 PM
or just exit msn messenger(or end its process by task manager) then start windows messenger then MSN Messenger
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by cgwaters on 09-16-2004 at 05:22 PM
So does it go without saying that if both clients are configured to automatically start, Windows Messenger will typically start after MSN Messenger, thereby preventing Messenger Plus from working with both clients?
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by Choli on 09-16-2004 at 07:31 PM
quote:No. The problem is that when both are configured to start automatically, Windows executes them in a random order. Also, one of them may take less time to start than the other. Both factors make impossible to determine which one will start first therefore sometimes (or in some computers) MSN Msg will start before Win Msg and Plus won't work properly with both.
Originally posted by cgwaters
So does it go without saying that if both clients are configured to automatically start, Windows Messenger will typically start after MSN Messenger, thereby preventing Messenger Plus from working with both clients?
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by saralk on 09-16-2004 at 08:05 PM
I guess if you asked really nicely, someone would make you a program that did this for you.
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by CookieRevised on 09-16-2004 at 10:09 PM
quote:And if you ask really really... REALLY nicely, I'll do the search for you and add a link to this post to such a program which has been made a couple of months ago...
Originally posted by saralk
I guess if you asked really nicely, someone would make you a program that did this for you.
AppLoader v1.1 released
voila
RE: RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by IAmMeWhoAreYou on 09-17-2004 at 11:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by GiantSpider
You could use polygamy or a loader like jrnz. These make it possible to run more than 1 MSN Messenger.
Laughs!, Well that did not go good for me.
I tried a search on google for "polygamy" and I got links for many places if I want more then one wife. LOL
I did search for both "polygamy" & "jrnz" with no luck. I have not a clue what these are.
Might someone give me a direct link to there home pages telling me what they are and how to obtain them? How they work Etc.
Now onto this>>>>
Also, I was a bit confused about "Windows Messenger" VS "MSN Messenger" Now I know. I went and got the new 6.2 MSN Messenger, not knowing that Plus will not work with it.
And I have now installed "Windows Messenger" version 4.7
Can anyone give me the links for both last versions of the two above that works with plus?
I would love to use both Microsoft Messengers at same time, with same logins. And I want my PLUS back! Coughs, for both.
I go to Microsoft places, and I can only find "MSN Messenger" 6.2 and when I try to get my "Windows Messenger" version 4.7 updated, all it will do is direct me to a new page to DL the new Sp2 for XP..
Oh yah, I run Win. XP Home Sp1 currently as well.
P.S. Any plans to update Plus to work with Sp2, and do you know of any issues as of yet?
I'm planing to some day go to the Sp2, but like many others, I'm kind of waiting and learning about all the new features, bugs, and issues that may creep up before taking it.
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by CookieRevised on 09-18-2004 at 12:04 AM
quote:CookieRevised's reply: Polygamy (what/why/when/etc...)
Originally posted by IAmMeWhoAreYou
Might someone give me a direct link to there home pages telling me what they are and how to obtain them? How they work Etc.
quote:Difference between Windows Messenger & MSN Messenger:
Originally posted by IAmMeWhoAreYou
Also, I was a bit confused about "Windows Messenger" VS "MSN Messenger"
EvilSeph's reply to Whats the difference Between Windows Messenger Or MSN Messenger?
CookieRevised's reply to Whats the difference Between Windows Messenger Or MSN Messenger?
Difference between Windows Messenger 5 and Windows Messenger 4:
CookieRevised's reply to Combinitation of errors, and problems w/ Windows Messenger
Important info about Windows Messenger 4.7.3000 (yet another version, this comes with SP2):
What's new (+bugs) in Windows Messenger 4.7.3000
How to revert back to Windows Messenger 4.7.2009
Info on how to "disable" Windows Messenger:
CookieRevised's reply to I am about to rip my hair out over MS Messanger
quote:Plus! 3.1 works perfectly with MSN Messenger 6.2!!!
Originally posted by IAmMeWhoAreYou
I went and got the new 6.2 MSN Messenger, not knowing that Plus will not work with it.
But some notes:
- If you use both Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger (to make sure check your processes by CTRL-ALT-DEL) then Windows Messenger must be started before MSN Messenger in order for Plus! to work properly.
- Plus! 3.1 will not work with the latest Windows Messenger 4.7.3000, which comes installed with SP2 of XP. This weekend, a new version of Plus! (3.20) will come out that IS compatible with Windows Messenger 4.7.3000.
- Windows Messenger 4.7.3000 has also other issues, which, for many users, are pain in the but and almost everybody downgrades to Windows Messenger 4.7.2009 again (see links above)
RE: RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by IAmMeWhoAreYou on 09-18-2004 at 05:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:CookieRevised's reply: Polygamy (what/why/when/etc...)
Originally posted by IAmMeWhoAreYou
Might someone give me a direct link to there home pages telling me what they are and how to obtain them? How they work Etc.
Ahhh, I went and read that, I'm not very bright to understand all that. Could you give me the lamens term, just what the pro and cons are as to just what changes what on the two choices. Sorry, but it confused me.
quote:Plus! 3.1 works perfectly with MSN Messenger 6.2!!!
Originally posted by IAmMeWhoAreYou
I went and got the new 6.2 MSN Messenger, not knowing that Plus will not work with it.
On this, well after I Dled MSN Messenger 6.2, and loaded it. The odd thing is that there was no help, and when I cliked on the plus I got this here:
I'm adding the jpeg of what I got.
How do I place a pict from my computer, in my post?
Anyway, I discovered, after I installed the latesest Plus, it then corrected it self to show me the plus.
It also then showed me I indeed had version 6.2.
But some notes:
- If you use both Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger (to make sure check your processes by CTRL-ALT-DEL) then Windows Messenger must be started before MSN Messenger in order for Plus! to work properly.
- Plus! 3.1 will not work with the latest Windows Messenger 4.7.3000, which comes installed with SP2 of XP. This weekend, a new version of Plus! (3.20) will come out that IS compatible with Windows Messenger 4.7.3000.
- Windows Messenger 4.7.3000 has also other issues, which, for many users, are pain in the but and almost everybody downgrades to Windows Messenger 4.7.2009 again (see links above)
I also discovered before I had mentioned having version "Windows Messenger 4.7, and did not include full number as I should had. I do have infact 4.7.2009, I just hope if there is issues with Sp2, how do I avoid getting new one if this one is best to have?
P.S. You all are so super ausome here.. THX
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by IAmMeWhoAreYou on 09-18-2004 at 06:01 AM
Now another thing, that is really frustrating me. 
After I Dled the 6.2 MSN Messenger, and installed the current Plus, I also chose the toolbar option in Messenger. Thinking it was the MSN popup thing. As it was installing, it told me had the version or something, I clicked on OK.
Anyway, after I got them both installed. All of a sudden, I discovered like 4 desktop icons, to, casinos, Internet, and Webhosting, one or two others..
Also, I had a crap load of new stuff jamed to my favs list, with simler things.
When I loaded my home page, all sudden, I had this strange toolbar below my MSN toolbar, with links to gambling, and various places, I figured out how I had to get rid of that, asks me to type in a number to rid my self of it.. Also discovered that my home page changed to one of these dam links. I also, started getting pops up while I went to places I wanted to. GRRRRRR
But now, when my home page loads, I get this dam screen on the bottom of my page, and keeps my task bar from coming up for me, untill I either close it or use it.
So, thinking I got this from either Plus or MSN, I now uninstalled Messenger, then checked it, is still there!!!!!
I mean, does this plus have some kind of auto addware or pop up software hidden in it? I cant stand pop up crap!!
Ok, *breaths*, this is a pict of what keeps coming up on me, and have no clue where it is, or how to KILL IT! 
RE: RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by WDZ on 09-18-2004 at 06:07 AM
quote:It could be the Plus sponsor program if you agreed to install it when you installed Plus...
Originally posted by IAmMeWhoAreYou
I mean, does this plus have some kind of auto addware or pop up software hidden in it?
![[Image: mp3_sponsoroption.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/mp3_sponsoroption.png)
quote:To remove the MsgPlus sponsor, uninstall Plus then re-install. Just read what you're agreeing to this time.
Ok, *breaths*, this is a pict of what keeps coming up on me, and have no clue where it is, or how to KILL IT!
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by IAmMeWhoAreYou on 09-18-2004 at 07:01 AM
OK, Everything is fixed and me now a very HAPPY CAMPER! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>THANKS!<<<<<<<<<<<<<
RE: MSN and Windows Messenger simultaneously by CookieRevised on 09-18-2004 at 09:31 AM
quote:you can't, you will have to reinstall 4.7.2009...
Originally posted by IAmMeWhoAreYou
I do have infact 4.7.2009, I just hope if there is issues with Sp2, how do I avoid getting new one if this one is best to have?