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The OS wars: outcome decided! by RaceProUK on 07-09-2004 at 07:53 PM
Those who don't like Linux can have a good look at this page: http://srom.zgp.org/. Just look at that green bar next to Linux...
Oh... by the way... Linux rules!
Mind you, Windows rules as well.
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by bach_m on 07-09-2004 at 08:07 PM
lol. i agree!
* bach_m goes back to installing linux on another comp
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Stigmata on 07-09-2004 at 08:32 PM
* Stigmata would if he could....
* Stigmata needs a new os for his old pc
and it needs to be bootable 
any help?
any free?
i ll take anything?
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by RaceProUK on 07-09-2004 at 08:39 PM
Get a Knoppix CD from www.knoppix.org.
Or, get a Gnoppix CD from www.gnoppix.org.
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by CookieRevised on 07-09-2004 at 08:40 PM
1) Windows is more widespread then Linux.
2) People say more rapidly "sucks" when something is associated with MS (even for no reason).
3) Since more users use Windows, relatively more users will complain.
4) If a problem exists in Linux, people wont say "Linux sucks" as rapidly because often the people who use Linux know that saying something like that is stupid and know that 90% of all errors are human-errors, not OS-errors (because Linux isn't exactly for the novice) and the Linuxers will often try to fix the errors themself instead of posting a "X sucks"-message on the net....
Above points makes that the graph is only "fun" for all the browserwar-kiddies and means *beep*-*beep* when it comes to thru valid data/figures...
PS: it is an original fun idea though.... (but nothing more then that)
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by bach_m on 07-09-2004 at 08:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jackass_wanabe
* jackass_wanabe needs a new os for his old pc
and it needs to be bootable
any help?
any free?
i ll take anything?
lo0oks like someone wants a copy of Linux
try SuSe or Mandrake. 
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by CookieRevised on 07-09-2004 at 08:46 PM
quote:SuSe? Mandrake? They suck like hell, use Debian... Here is the proof:
Originally posted by bach_m
quote:
Originally posted by jackass_wanabe
* jackass_wanabe needs a new os for his old pc
and it needs to be bootable
any help?
any free?
i ll take anything?
lo0oks like someone wants a copy of Linux
http://zork.net/~nick/srom/
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Choli on 07-09-2004 at 08:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by raceprouk
: http://srom.zgp.org/.
dodgy statistics.... linux is good for some things where windows fails and the opposite. Both rock and suck ... 
(for example, I can't do my work in windows, because the company makes the perl scripts in linux, and I can't use linux @ home because it doesn't know any driver for my network card and i don't hve internet 
)quote:all the OSes are (must be) bootable
Originally posted by jackass_wanabe
* jackass_wanabe needs a new os for his old pc
and it needs to be bootable
quote:it's an old computer, right? so.. win95, win 3.11, msdos 6.22, imbdos 5, msdos 3.0, etc...
Originally posted by jackass_wanabe
any help?
quote:linux... there are linux for all the likes
Originally posted by jackass_wanabe
any free?
mulinux, for example, is a very small one 
edit
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
1) Windows is more widespread then Linux.
2) People say more rapidly "sucks" when something is associated with MS (even for no reason).
3) Since more users use Windows, relatively more users will complain.
4) If a problem exists in Linux, people wont say "Linux sucks" as rapidly because often the people who use Linux know that saying something like that is stupid and know that 90% of all errors are human-errors, not OS-errors (because Linux isn't exactly for the novice) and the Linuxers will often try to fix the errors themself instead of posting a "X sucks"-message on the net....
agree
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by KeyStorm on 07-09-2004 at 08:47 PM
You can test Knoppix. It's a Linux distribution that runs from a CD at startup, loads itself to the RAM and doesn't touch your HHDs
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by .blade// on 07-09-2004 at 09:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by raceprouk
Those who don't like Linux can have a good look at this page: http://srom.zgp.org/. Just look at that green bar next to Linux...
Oh... by the way... Linux rules!
Mind you, Windows rules as well.
I've seen that page before but WHO rated the OS? I mean look...Solaris got a better review than Windows....and Solaris shouldn't even be listed as in OS it sucks so badly....it's like Windows with more command prompts
According to the page it was done by searching AltaVista and with the OS name plus "rocks" or "sucks" next to it...I mean just because a person wouldn't put a web page up hailing or booing an OS doesn't mean they do/don't like it....
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by RaceProUK on 07-09-2004 at 09:52 PM
You do realise that the page is little more than a bit of fun?
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by .blade// on 07-09-2004 at 09:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by raceprouk
You do realise that the page is little more than a bit of fun?
In a way, but I am just making sure that everyone knows that it's not accurate
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by dotNorma on 07-09-2004 at 09:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by raceprouk
You do realise that the page is little more than a bit of fun?
Its not
For one , Anybody who belongs to a community should know that Microsoft is always said to be sucky and so on. But we all know Microsoft doesn't suck. And people who use Linux are normally advanced at computing and know not to go around saying "This browser sucks!".
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by bach_m on 07-10-2004 at 02:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
SuSe? Mandrake? They suck like hell, use Debian... Here is the proof:
i was just going for a distro thats good for newbies.
but debian is fine
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Garndell on 07-10-2004 at 07:26 AM
Cookie got it right. Linux won't become the BEST OS until it can find a way to topple M$. When you consider the number of people that know that site, probably 75% are devotees of Linux which makes it very much biased in the first place.
To me Gentoo is by far the best distro of Linux.
M$ Longhorn best of M$ collection.
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Anubis on 07-10-2004 at 08:15 AM
quote:Yeah. That's one thing that pisses me off about n00bs at times...They hate Microsoft with really no reason.
Originally posted by CookieRevised
People say more rapidly "sucks" when something is associated with MS (even for no reason)
True they have cornered the OS market (and IE is the most used browser to my knowledge)...However Window's OS are very adaptable, it suits the needs of the Businessman, Home user and server runner...Although Linux have specialised operating systems for different needs (the main reason I like Linux) I'm going to stick with Windows as my primary OS for now at least. I don't really need a different OS, however I find it very useful to practise with as many Linux operating systems as possible every now and then...
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Garndell on 07-10-2004 at 09:50 AM
Add to the Windows as main OS arguement compatability with software and you got a winner. People in general want plug & play for software & hardware. They don't want to manually configure everything.
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by mad_onion on 07-10-2004 at 10:43 AM
wow this thread is a lot more pro microsoft than most on this forum. i agree with anubis when he says that noobs say windows is bad because it simply isnt true. people just arent appreciative of what they have im sure when we all think about what microsoft has done for the world it can never be said to be a bad thing.
im sure linux is quite good because if it wasnt no one would use it. but pesonally im a bit suspicious of an OS that you can get for free
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by saralk on 07-10-2004 at 11:08 AM
what if someone says
"Microsoft sucks, but linux doesnt"
wont that completely ruin the results
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Choli on 07-10-2004 at 11:25 AM
quote:did you try it? It seems that you didn't
Originally posted by mad_onion
im sure linux is quite good because if it wasnt no one would use it. but pesonally im a bit suspicious of an OS that you can get for free
A free software may or may not be a bad program. Plus is free, is it bad? Linux is free, is it bad? Well, you can't say yes nor not without trying it. Don't be suspicious of a free OS... for the same reason I could be suspicious of Windows because I don't know what it internally does (I don't have access to its code)... With this post I'm not saying that Linux is better than Windows nor the opposite. Just that people have to be objetive and be able to reason why this or that OS is free or not...
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by mad_onion on 07-10-2004 at 08:37 PM
well plus is very different from a whole OS
im just saying that if i didnt know about linux and someone came up to me and said do you want a good OS for free id laugh at them. so i dont know.
i have real trouble understanding how linux can be that great as well as being free.
actually, just wondering how do they make their money?
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by saralk on 07-10-2004 at 08:52 PM
Linux is open-source, this means that the person who developed it originally let everyone see the source code for it and modify for it for their own use. Many companies have done this and sell the software as a full operating system.
The free copies of linux are usually made for the sake of making your own operating system.
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by RaceProUK on 07-10-2004 at 08:55 PM
It is possible to make huge wads of cash from a free operating system in at least two ways:
1. Redistributor of pre-burned ISOs (there are many vendors of Knoppix discs for example).
2. Offer complete solutions including tech support e.g. Red Hat Enterprise Desktop and Server.
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Choli on 07-10-2004 at 09:56 PM
quote:the fact that you can legally get a free copy of a distro of linux doesn't mean that you (or someone else) can't sell copies of it. In fact, the companies of linux (SusE, RedHat, etc....) make money selling thier OS with technical support, big manuals, etc... They also earn money when they say conferences, etc... Sumarizing: Just what raceprouk said....
Originally posted by mad_onion
just wondering how do they make their money?
quote:yes, of course, however both are programs designed and developed by people. The fact that they're or aren't free or that you can or can't see its code has nothing to do with if they're good or not.
Originally posted by mad_onion
well plus is very different from a whole OS
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by user2319 on 07-14-2004 at 01:37 PM
I agree with Choli and Raceprouk, but might add that you don't HAVE to make money out of it. You can also program for fun, and because you just did it for fun, why not share the fun with others and open-source it? And there is no company that makes linux. And linux companies make money out of support and nice manuals with the boxed versions. Big companies want support, so that if (for whatever reason) something goes wrong, they can just call someone.
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by sasquatch on 07-15-2004 at 06:52 AM
Windows for games
Linux when i feel bored and want to experiment with an open source OS
Mac OS X for everything else
RE: The OS wars: outcome decided! by Pyroteq on 07-15-2004 at 07:00 AM
Windows for gameing
Linux for experiments
Mac OS X for all the imageing sorta stuff....I pretty much agree with sasquatch