Shoutbox

2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons - Printable Version

-Shoutbox (https://shoutbox.menthix.net)
+-- Forum: MsgHelp Archive (/forumdisplay.php?fid=58)
+--- Forum: Messenger Plus! for Live Messenger (/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
+---- Forum: WLM Plus! General (/forumdisplay.php?fid=23)
+----- Thread: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons (/showthread.php?tid=28429)

2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by cooldude_i06 on 07-10-2004 at 05:18 AM

1. Is there a way to bypass the limit of at least 3 characters in a Send filter??? I know there isnt an option in the interface, but can it be done with some registry editing? (I'm sorry if this has been asked before but i couldnt find a post...)

2. I use a custom emoticon for a "?" sign and an "!" sign, but whenever i use these with words that are filtered and replaced, the emoticons dont appear in the message after it is send, instead there are just blank spaces.....???


RE: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by Choli on 07-10-2004 at 12:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cooldude_i06
1. Is there a way to bypass the limit of at least 3 characters in a Send filter??? I know there isnt an option in the interface, but can it be done with some registry editing? (I'm sorry if this has been asked before but i couldnt find a post...)
the actual limit is 2 characters and you can't (currently) bypass it in any way. Sorry.
quote:
Originally posted by cooldude_i06
2. I use a custom emoticon for a "?" sign and an "!" sign, but whenever i use these with words that are filtered and replaced, the emoticons dont appear in the message after it is send, instead there are just blank spaces.....???
Do you insert those emoticons using the original panel of smilies of messenger? Doing that won't work. You have to type manually the code or use the smilies panes of plus, the one that opens when you press (

If that don't work, explain me this:
quote:
Originally posted by cooldude_i06
I use a custom emoticon for a "?" sign and an "!" sign,
do you mean that the codes of the smilies are "?" and "!" ? Or do you mean that those emoticons are images of those symbols? If it's the second case, tell us what codes are you using, and, in both cases, post what filters do you have and an example of line of text where the bug happens.
RE: RE: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by cooldude_i06 on 07-10-2004 at 06:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Choli
If that don't work, explain me this:
quote:
Originally posted by cooldude_i06
I use a custom emoticon for a "?" sign and an "!" sign,
do you mean that the codes of the smilies are "?" and "!" ? Or do you mean that those emoticons are images of those symbols? If it's the second case, tell us what codes are you using, and, in both cases, post what filters do you have and an example of line of text where the bug happens.


Its actually both, the emoticons for exclamation has the code ! and the emoticons for question mark has the code ?. An example is:

Originally type: sup
Filter changes it to: What's up

Originally type: sup?
Filter changes it to: What's up (no question mark emoticons)

Originally type: What's up?
Then the emoticon stays.

This even happens if theres one filterable word in the whole sentence and the emoticon isn't beside that word...example

Originally Type: sup dude?
Filter changes to: What's up dude (again no question mark sign)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for replying
RE: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by Choli on 07-10-2004 at 07:30 PM

here my tests are:

When the custom emoticon has a 1-character code: (for example: ?

If I set the filter "sup" -> "What's up?" all works fine.
If I set the filter "sup?" -> "What's up?":
   -  While typing "sup?", messenger replaces the ? by the CE and Plus doesn't apply the filter when I send the message.
   -  If before sending the message, I click Ctrl + Z (undo), messenger changes back the CE by its just-typed code, "?". Then I click send and Plus applies the filter and "What's up·" followed by the CE is sent.

When the custom emoticon has a 2-or-more-characters code: (for example: ??

Either with the filter "sup" -> "What's up??" or "sup??" -> "What's up??" it works well. With the second filter, messenger changes the ?? by the CE before sending it, but Plus recognices it and applies the filter.

Sumarizing: What you have to do, is change the code for the CE to something with at least 2 characters... and use a filter like "sup?" -> What's up??" or just "sup" -> What's up??".



With further tests, I've discovered this:

CEs which code has only 1 character don't work with the features of Plus. ie: Commands, tags, filters, ... and, in general, any feature that implies that Plus has to modify the message in any way. Once the message is sent, the CE is lost and when you recall the message using Ctrl + Up Arrow, the code (letter) for the CE you used isn't there.

However, if before sending the message, you can undo * the change letter -> picture of the emoticon that messenger makes, in that case, Plus works well.

* -> If the CE is the last letter of the message, you can just do Ctrl + Z, or, if it's in the middle of the text, write it after typing the message and do Ctrl + Z.

So Plus doesn't seem to "like" 1-character custom emoticons. it's a bug, imo. Let's hope Patchou notices this thread

* Choli wonders if this has something to do with that the filters of Plus has to be at least 2 characters long :^)
RE: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by Patchou on 07-10-2004 at 09:55 PM

Haaaa... good to know, I'll check that out. Must be somthing stupid :)


RE: RE: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by cooldude_i06 on 07-10-2004 at 11:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Choli

CEs which code has only 1 character don't work with the features of Plus. ie: Commands, tags, filters, ... and, in general, any feature that implies that Plus has to modify the message in any way.


yeah, i kinda figured that out after none of my autoblock in away messages worked.

thanks for replying Choli, il change my ? to ?? and ! to !!
RE: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by Patchou on 08-31-2004 at 06:21 PM

Followup: the bug has been fixed in version 3.10.


RE: 2 Questions - word filtering and custom emoticons by cooldude_i06 on 09-01-2004 at 05:58 AM

Thanks for the follow up :D