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signed in (appear offline) by yeeyee on 08-04-2004 at 01:22 PM
is this possible to determine when smb is signed in but status is offline??
RE: signed in (appear offline) by CookieRevised on 08-04-2004 at 01:25 PM
Nope...
If one is signed in offline, then the protocol will return this as "not signed in". So the clients can't differ between "signed in offline" or "being not signed in at all", it's all the same for your contacts...
RE: signed in (appear offline) by Anubis on 08-04-2004 at 01:26 PM
No, sorry, when someone's status is set to "appear offline" there is no way to determine if they are actually online or not, without finding a bug in the MSN Protocol that could show this...However given the Protocol's integrity one will probably never be exposed...
RE: signed in (appear offline) by yeeyee on 08-04-2004 at 01:38 PM
i was thinking that when u are singned in and appare offline and smb is online in your list it still send some package and maybe somehow u can determine...
RE: signed in (appear offline) by Anubis on 08-04-2004 at 02:26 PM
quote:There are packages sent, but due to the way MSN works, these are simply only sent to the MSN Server...not to the other person. IP2IP is only initiated in a Webcam CONVERSATION, Audio CONVERSATION and File Transfer...However good theory, and if a suitable bug was ever found in the MSN server I'm sure we could read these packets, but that would be illegal, wrong and a breach of privacy...
Originally posted by yeeyee
it still send some package and maybe somehow u can determine...
RE: signed in (appear offline) by Plik on 08-04-2004 at 06:32 PM
If you knew the IP address of the targets computer, you could see if the ports messinger uses were open I.E. 1322, 1323, 1324, 1325 on my comp. But the catch is they didnt show up wen i port scanned my comp so u'll have to be imagaionative
RE: signed in (appear offline) by Anubis on 08-04-2004 at 06:38 PM
quote:Yeah, but if they're really offline that could be anyone you're looking at
Originally posted by madman66
If you knew the IP address of the targets computer, you could see if the ports messinger uses were open
...quote:If you monitored your internet connection very carefully while trying to connect to that port with telnet, in theory it could work, however in any case its useless, you can't be sure who it is...
Originally posted by madman66
so u'll have to be imagaionative
RE: signed in (appear offline) by Plik on 08-04-2004 at 06:46 PM
i gessed that, but if you know that the target is the only person using that computer 4 MSN then it would, maby.
It was only an idea of the top of my head anyway
RE: signed in (appear offline) by CookieRevised on 08-04-2004 at 11:49 PM
quote:? Those are certainly not the standard ports used by Messenger....
Originally posted by madman66
I.E. 1322, 1323, 1324, 1325 on my comp.
quote:No, what Anubis meant is that when that person isn't online (PC not turned on) the IP can point to someone else if it is dynamic (and most IP's are)...
Originally posted by madman66
i gessed that, but if you know that the target is the only person using that computer 4 MSN then it would, maby.
You can NOT find it out... period.
RE: signed in (appear offline) by Plik on 08-05-2004 at 12:45 AM
oh yeh you're right cookie.
it was just an idea of the top of my head, came up with it when i was reading the post.
didnt think about dynamic ip's