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Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by R0cK3TttttT on 08-16-2004 at 05:41 PM

A few things i'd like to see in the next new MSG+ or Stuffplug...
Rename Main Messenger Window,
Status Dependant Display Pictures,
- Online image
- Busy image
- Away image
- Be right back image
- Out to lunch image
Sign In With Any Status,
- Online
- Busy
- Be Right Back
- Away
- On The Phone
- Out To Lunch
- Appear Offline
Message Flood Protection!!


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Millenium_edition on 08-16-2004 at 05:47 PM

how sad. stealing creative ideas.

http://www.messengerdiscovery.com


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by MC Inferno on 08-16-2004 at 06:07 PM

He's not stealing them, he's doing one of two things. Purposefully saying them so someone will suggest messengerdiscovery and he gets advertisement for it...... or, he genuineally is asking for them things.


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Menthix on 08-16-2004 at 06:23 PM

Why Plus! or StuffPlug?? Whatever happened to Plus! or a plugin? I don't see the point of having every possible feature packed together in one plugin. Might as well create a stand-alone MSN plugin then.


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by ipab on 08-16-2004 at 06:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
how sad. stealing creative ideas.

http://www.messengerdiscovery.com

too true too true

quote:
Originally posted by R0cK3TttttT
A few things i'd like to see in the next new MSG+ or Stuffplug...
Rename Main Messenger Window,
Status Dependant Display Pictures,
- Online image
- Busy image
- Away image
- Be right back image
- Out to lunch image
Sign In With Any Status,
- Online
- Busy
- Be Right Back
- Away
- On The Phone
- Out To Lunch
- Appear Offline
Message Flood Protection!!


just use Messenger Discovery :P
RE: RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by R0cK3TttttT on 08-16-2004 at 06:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
how sad. stealing creative ideas.

http://www.messengerdiscovery.com

If some one would take all the plugins or patches and update the damn thangs to work on 6.2 or in ENGLISH-seen 'em other places before msgdisc...
And Messenger DIscovery is shit and still dont work, maybe wouldnt have to ask for it on stuffplug or MSG+ if it worked...
Shit! great idea, why dontcha genius'es make a damn plug in wiff them features, seems like someone is always asking for them every week!!
Oh wait all ya can do is post stupid SHIT and rundown legit good ideas...:refuck::refuck:
Fuck i guess im not 14 or 15 so ya better fuckin ban me or better yet delete MY FUCKIN ACCOUNT ROFLMFAO!!!
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Millenium_edition on 08-16-2004 at 06:44 PM

you deserve a ban. but i'm not admin so it's not me to choose. have you tried posting for help on their forums? have you tried contacting the author using PM? just because it doesn't work it's not shit.

you know what, go play with your pokemon cards and come back in 2 years, when you know how computers work. allright?


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Stigmata on 08-16-2004 at 08:41 PM

oh this made me smile :D


is it just me but ready :D im guna copy and paste from the md site :D


  Status Dependant Display Pictures
- Online image
- Busy image
- Away image
- Be right back image
- Out to lunch image

Sign In With Any Status
- Online
- Busy
- Be Right Back
- Away
- On The Phone
- Out To Lunch
- Appear Offline
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Patchou on 08-17-2004 at 05:07 PM

Hum, just to be clear on something Millenium: most of the things suggested here are not creative ideas by MD, they were already part of some older Messenger plugins and all of them were suggestions given on this forum many times. Next time, please don't exagerate.


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by TheBlasphemer on 08-18-2004 at 02:32 AM

Could anyone just shut that millenium guy up?
(^ He's prolly gonna flame me for that ^)

oke, so here's the deal, people request stuff, I (try to) make it.
What's wrong with having two programs do the same?
Hell, what if a feature exists in a program, but someone else can do it better, why wouldn't he be allowed to write his better version then?

Even worse, is Microsoft being a cry-baby just because KDE imitated it's start bar?
Did any of you ever pick up that windows was originally a rip-off of apple's ideas?

So, please stop that darn argument about "messenger discovery alredy has that" or "I made that before you, why dont I get credit, boohoo"
I'll answer both of those cries for attention once and forever:
messenger discovery alredy has that -> so what? maybe messenger discovery doesn't work for some users (some -> a lot), maybe users aren't satisfied with the way messenger discovery implements it?!
I made that before you, why dont I get credit, boohoo -> Who said I used you idea? besides, if people are using my thing instead of your thing, then mine must be better, right? so if mine is BETTER than yours, why should I give your CRAPPY version credit?!

So, that's settled, no more messenger discovery or steal feature crying around here or I'll flame your ass!

as for the suggested features? I might do the main msn window, as I'm already planning to subclass it to make it systray only :P
the others are easy and I leave them for others to make :)
If I'd be the only plugin maker around  most of the current features offered by plugins wouldn't be available, and besides I'm way too busy to make all requested features...

anway, if anyone would want some help on those features, just pm me. oh, please only pm me if you have programming experience, I can give you hints, but I'm not gonna teach you how to program!

now be nice to eachother and have fun,
TB


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by eckocomplex on 08-18-2004 at 04:04 AM

It makes me laugh how you all hate MD so much but yet want all it's features.


RE: RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by R0cK3TttttT on 08-18-2004 at 04:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eckocomplex
It makes me laugh how you all hate MD so much but yet want all it's features.

quote:
Originally posted by patchou
Hum, just to be clear on something Millenium: most of the things suggested here are not creative ideas by MD, they were already part of some older Messenger plugins and all of them were suggestions given on this forum many times. Next time, please don't exagerate.
:-#
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by marissa on 08-18-2004 at 04:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eckocomplex
It makes me laugh how you all hate MD so much but yet want all it's features.



haha me too :lol: but lets not turn this into a msgplus vs. MD thread. :tongue:
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Patchou on 08-18-2004 at 07:18 AM

msgplus vs MD wouldn't make sense... StuffPlug vs MD however.... ;). In any case, I sincirely not hate MD and I really think it's good to see new things coming up for Messenger. As long as StuffPlug and MD are in healthy competition (that means no flaming for no reason), everything will continue to be fine :).


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Millenium_edition on 08-18-2004 at 11:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
I made that before you, why dont I get credit, boohoo -> Who said I used you idea? besides, if people are using my thing instead of your thing, then mine must be better, right? so if mine is BETTER than yours, why should I give your CRAPPY version credit?!
yeah well see the point is yours isn't better =/
quote:
oke, so here's the deal, people request stuff, I (try to) make it.
What's wrong with having two programs do the same?
Hell, what if a feature exists in a program, but someone else can do it better, why wouldn't he be allowed to write his better version then?

Even worse, is Microsoft being a cry-baby just because KDE imitated it's start bar?
Did any of you ever pick up that windows was originally a rip-off of apple's ideas?
you know what, doesn't matter, remove the "rolando" name in your about box, and work on your little viruses and flood people with your 1800 addresses? how old are you? 13? don't you have any respect for people except yourself and patchou?
quote:
Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
Could anyone just shut that millenium guy up?
don't like being owned by me?
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by dotNorma on 08-18-2004 at 11:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
how old are you? 13?
Last time I checked 17 :dodgy:

quote:
Originally posted by eckocomplex
It makes me laugh how you all hate MD so much but yet want all it's features.
Its like 6:00 in the morning for me so I wont find the Kozmo Framer but go to me mess.be and go to Downloads then you can find an Add-on for nearly every single feature that MD has!

When I come back from shcool at like 4:00 I will spend my entire day finding an addon for each feature of MD just to show you!

We never can get along from you MSN Fanatic people :p
RE: RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by TheBlasphemer on 08-18-2004 at 11:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
quote:
Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
I made that before you, why dont I get credit, boohoo -> Who said I used you idea? besides, if people are using my thing instead of your thing, then mine must be better, right? so if mine is BETTER than yours, why should I give your CRAPPY version credit?!
yeah well see the point is yours isn't better =/

Ehm, sorry to pop that little bubble of yours, but didn't you remove MyCustomNix because it was so darn unstable ?
quote:
quote:
oke, so here's the deal, people request stuff, I (try to) make it.
What's wrong with having two programs do the same?
Hell, what if a feature exists in a program, but someone else can do it better, why wouldn't he be allowed to write his better version then?

Even worse, is Microsoft being a cry-baby just because KDE imitated it's start bar?
Did any of you ever pick up that windows was originally a rip-off of apple's ideas?
you know what, doesn't matter, remove the "rolando" name in your about box, and work on your little viruses and flood people with your 1800 addresses? how old are you? 13? don't you have any respect for people except yourself and patchou?

I don't get the part about Rolando really :S He made me a really cool GUI, and now you want me to remove his name from the about box? Sorry to say mate, but you're losing kind of losing it :P
"Little Virusses"? Rrrrright.... So what you're saying joke programs suddenly turned into virusses? heh, no wonder that guy said there was a virus in SPNG, he must've meant the easter egg!
for the record, I'm 16, and gonna be 17 after 11 september, you on the other hand sound a little younger than that, am I right?
Now, about the respect part, I respect people that respect me, and luckily that doesn't only include Patchou...
quote:
quote:
Originally posted by TheBlasphemer
Could anyone just shut that millenium guy up?
don't like being owned by me?

You're trying to say that you "owned" me?! bwahahah, you're just merely one hell of an annoying fuck :P
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Stigmata on 08-18-2004 at 12:19 PM

md new version hooks messenger :rolleyes:


but im still a md fan :D





RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by cyberstew on 08-18-2004 at 12:35 PM

Back on-topic :)

I think all the features MD has would be great for Plus! or SPNG.  I personally love both already.


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Wabz on 08-18-2004 at 12:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Stigmata
md new version hooks messenger :rolleyes:


but im still a md fan :D


Messenger Discovery is possibly the most hazardous program I've ever seen distributed as a Messenger Add-On.  Personally I may as well just have deleted a few registry keys added some random values and changed my password to something random to get the same effect.  I loaded the program following the instructions like a good boy and it worked fine the first time I logged in (Y) then I attempted to login a second time and it refused.  Messenger Didnt kick up any errors, MD didnt either yet as soon as I uninstall MD and clean Messenger up it works fine once again!

Stuffplug is far more stable (Even when I tested a early early beta of the orginal stuffplug)  TB is a good guy with a lot of earnt respect in this community, who I have fully supported through thick and thin  (Even though there was a lot of thin at one point). 

TB additions to messenger are amazingly good and he gives credit where credits due.  He also creates features not even thought of.  I'll even lay down the challenge to both of you.  To make a feature thats completly orginal and certainly hasn't been done before.  Although that would be a bit pointless because MD would install another SOCK proxy on my machine thats completly unneccessary. 

Thats my 50 cent and Don't concern yourself with Messenger Discovery anymore. the only thing I'll be helping with is the removal of it from users machines
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by crank on 08-18-2004 at 12:46 PM

^o)I can't understand the f*cking problem...
What's wrong with MD? I'm using both stuffplug and MD because they both are nice. The fact that MD is standalone and SPNG is a plugin makes me think how they can ever be 'concurrents' they just have similiar features.|-)

(Kinda offtopic right)


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Millenium_edition on 08-18-2004 at 01:05 PM

quote:
I don't get the part about Rolando really He made me a really cool GUI, and now you want me to remove his name from the about box? Sorry to say mate, but you're losing kind of losing it
gui is good, ideas is good... why not credit both ?
quote:
Ehm, sorry to pop that little bubble of yours, but didn't you remove MyCustomNix because it was so darn unstable ?
indeed, because my pc crashed and i couldn't work on it. and all those idiots not following the instructions.
quote:
Little Virusses"? Rrrrright.... So what you're saying joke programs suddenly turned into virusses? heh, no wonder that guy said there was a virus in SPNG, he must've meant the easter egg!
joke programs are considered as viruses, and why do you think you were banned ;) ?
quote:
for the record, I'm 16, and gonna be 17 after 11 september, you on the other hand sound a little younger than that, am I right?
"how old are you?" was equal to "grow up", 16-year old asm programmers don't write joke programs or make their programs "incompatible" with websites.
quote:
Now, about the respect part, I respect people that respect me, and luckily that doesn't only include Patchou...
I did respect you until you started insulting me and flooding me on msn 8-)

it's just discussion, i'm not flaming you or anything so quit the insulting allright :S
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Millenium_edition on 08-18-2004 at 01:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NoName
quote:
Originally posted by eckocomplex
It makes me laugh how you all hate MD so much but yet want all it's features.
Its like 6:00 in the morning for me so I wont find the Kozmo Framer but go to me mess.be and go to Downloads then you can find an Add-on for nearly every single feature that MD has!

When I come back from shcool at like 4:00 I will spend my entire day finding an addon for each feature of MD just to show you!
you know what, you do that, i hope you take 2 days finding them all. good luck, as people in here request features that MD has, which oviously means they didn't find an alternative?
quote:
We never can get along from you MSN Fanatic people :p
quotes like these start community wars. so keep your mouth shut alright?
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Wabz on 08-18-2004 at 01:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
quotes like these start community wars. so keep your mouth shut alright?
Nuff said

Shame you can't read our rules about double posting either

RE: RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by TheBlasphemer on 08-18-2004 at 01:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
quote:
I don't get the part about Rolando really He made me a really cool GUI, and now you want me to remove his name from the about box? Sorry to say mate, but you're losing kind of losing it
gui is good, ideas is good... why not credit both ?

Maybe because Rolando spend lots of free time creating a gui just for my program ?
quote:
quote:
Ehm, sorry to pop that little bubble of yours, but didn't you remove MyCustomNix because it was so darn unstable ?
indeed, because my pc crashed and i couldn't work on it. and all those idiots not following the instructions.
Well, weren't those "instructions" kind of difficult to understand? SPNG works out of the box, and if you don't follow the instructions the worst that can happen is that it doesn't work. It doesn't crash your msn...
quote:
quote:
Little Virusses"? Rrrrright.... So what you're saying joke programs suddenly turned into virusses? heh, no wonder that guy said there was a virus in SPNG, he must've meant the easter egg!
joke programs are considered as viruses, and why do you think you were banned ;) ?
I was banned for proving Messenger Plus Plugins could well be used to contain malicious code, I did not however provide a valid executable, I only posted bits and pieces of code from which a talented coder might have been able to make a virus. but after all, doesn't MSDN or Platform SDK contain these codes too?
quote:
quote:
for the record, I'm 16, and gonna be 17 after 11 september, you on the other hand sound a little younger than that, am I right?
"how old are you?" was equal to "grow up", 16-year old asm programmers don't write joke programs or make their programs "incompatible" with websites.
"you sound a little younger than that" was equal too "You're acting immature and annoying" :)
I never made my programs incompatible with websites, it was merely an idea, which I chose not to use after all. and why wouldn't 16 year old's write joke programs? never heard of that program that made a cat walk over your monitor? or the one that popped bart simpsons head in all windows dialogs? don't go telling me that was made by people much younger than me...
quote:
quote:
Now, about the respect part, I respect people that respect me, and luckily that doesn't only include Patchou...
I did respect you until you started insulting me and flooding me on msn 8-)

it's just discussion, i'm not flaming you or anything so quit the insulting allright :S

You're not flaming? How would you call these posts then? "discussion" doesn't quite fit in this situation *-)
RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Millenium_edition on 08-18-2004 at 01:58 PM

blah, i give up. i don't want to be banned again. sorry TB ;)


RE: Suggestions for new MSG+ or Stuffplug! by Patchou on 08-18-2004 at 05:26 PM

End of discussion boys, you can continue that in another thread if you really think it's worth it .