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Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 05:39 PM
Well, one day I remember in a thread I had saved a picture as a .gif and the color had fucked up. Cookierevised said it was something to do wit my settings, well I was wandering how do I make it were when I save it as a .gif it dont mess up the colors of the image? And also, why can't I save a picture a a .jpg it don't ever give me a option to save it as that.....
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by CookieRevised on 08-22-2004 at 05:42 PM
quote:http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=23...d=219914#pid219914
Originally posted by Sean
And also, why can't I save a picture a a .jpg it don't ever give me a option to save it as that.....
quote:convert your image to 256 colors before saving it. Although it should do that automaticly in MS Paint though...
Originally posted by Sean
well I was wandering how do I make it were when I save it as a .gif it dont mess up the colors of the image?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 05:45 PM
How do I convert it to 256 colors?
[EDIT]
Okay I was reading this artical http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193354
And okay I have a question, I cant save it as a .jpg cause I dont have picture it express installed? I mean I have the disk for it but I dont have it installed, do i need to install it to get to save it as a .jpg?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by CookieRevised on 08-22-2004 at 06:02 PM
quote:With "convert to 256 colors" I was talking in general. In Paint, you can't do that, but it will automaticly reduce the colors when the image format only supports x colors (but, note that the conversion-method to less colors used by Paint, isn't the best algorithm; there are many more (often better) ways to do it which will give a much better result. But this said, Paint is only a very basic graphics program, so don't expect to much of it.)
Originally posted by Sean
How do I convert it to 256 colors?
quote:Microsoft Picture It! Express or Microsoft Paint....
Originally posted by Sean
I cant save it as a .jpg cause I dont have picture it express installed?
Both are different programs. But the article gives only a list of what to do for Picture It!... But the same goes for Paint; Instead of Picture It!, select/unselect Paint, the rest stays the same as described...
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 06:08 PM
You mean to select paint in add/remove? It's not listed in there. 
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by CookieRevised on 08-22-2004 at 06:19 PM
indeed it isn't listed there because that isn't the place where you need to look for it...
read the list in the article again, you proberly read it to quickly 
:
quote:
- ......
- Double-click Add/Remove Programs.
- On the Install/Uninstall tab, click Microsoft Plus! 98, click Add/Remove, click Add/Remove again, and then click Next.
- ......
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 06:25 PM
Okay I am almost threw, I am doing the reg edit but I am confused about this part....
Use Registry Editor to remove the JPEG value from the following registry keys:
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Shared Tools/Graphic Filters/ Export
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Shared Tools/Graphic Filters/ Import
Does that mean to go to the Import and delete the JPEG folder and the sam in the Export??
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I dont have Microsoft Plus! 98 on my add/remove programs either??
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by CookieRevised on 08-22-2004 at 07:12 PM
quote:yes... (although they aren't "folders".)
Originally posted by Sean
Does that mean to go to the Import and delete the JPEG folder and the sam in the Export??
quote:
Originally posted by Sean
I dont have Microsoft Plus! 98 on my add/remove programs either??
quote:On the Install/Uninstall tab; not in the "add/remove programs"-list....
- ......
- Double-click Add/Remove Programs.
- On the Install/Uninstall tab, click Microsoft Plus! 98, click Add/Remove, click Add/Remove again, and then click Next.
- ......
EDIT: sorry for the wrong info, this is for Picture It!... MS Paint is found in "windows setup"...
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 07:23 PM
Umm its not there or I am not lookin hard enought... I deleted the registry tho....
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by spokes on 08-22-2004 at 08:43 PM
you deleted the registry?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RaceProUK on 08-22-2004 at 08:46 PM
quote:A small part of it. It's not a problem if you know what you're doing: I've deleted registry keys quite often myself.
Originally posted by spokes25
you deleted the registry?
<offtopic>If anyone is having problems with network cards and DHCP, there is a registry key you can delete. After a reboot, DHCP works again.</offtopic>
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 09:10 PM
when you save a file, can't you just put .jpg on the end?
like: mypic.jpg
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 09:45 PM
It don't work like that....And I deleted the registry and it still dont freakin let me save it as a .jpg....Do I need to reboot after editing it?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 09:47 PM
If you edit the registry, you need to reboot to see any changes.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RaceProUK on 08-22-2004 at 09:48 PM
For some changes yes. For others (though not many), just restarting a program is enough.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 10:06 PM
Grrrr, I can save it with the extention .jpg, but then when I open it, it looks like the attached file.....Also it didn't put the fuckin registry back after I deleted it.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 10:12 PM
omg tht pic is murder on dial-up lol.
Haven't you noticed that there is an icon for it. (next to the file path)
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 10:13 PM
Yes, what does that have to do with it?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by chris on 08-22-2004 at 10:19 PM
Try reading http://www.hftonline.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-4457.html and it will most likely help you. You probaly dont have the filters in both locations or at all so there is a download link there and you can download the filters and put them in the right spot and i think it has .reg files too so i think u will be able to get it to work after that it has step by step how to so good luck
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 10:38 PM
Ty sooooooo much chris! Worked like a charm! I can now save it as a .jpg 
But it looks crappy....Now, thats done, What about when I save it as a .gif it still fucks up the color...Anyway to fix that?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 10:56 PM
like I said for .jpg
Put .gif on the end of the filename but DON'T select gif from the filetype dropdown menu.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 11:02 PM
You cant do that I dont think. If I do that its does the thing as in the screenshot attached...
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 11:03 PM
o, it works for me, that's the only way I can save images as different types without changing the compression.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 11:08 PM
Hmm maby it is cause if this, It dont let me check to save as nothing, and put the file type at the end. I hope you get what I mean...
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 11:16 PM
by default it's set to a bitmap image (.bmp) Leaving that saves the image with full quality. Selecting the other options on the list alters the compression/quality according to the filetype, For example, when you save it as .gif, it has like dots on the image.
When you select something from a list, it doesn't add the .xxx extension. If you do it manually, it'll save with bmp quality but as another type.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-22-2004 at 11:50 PM
If I do it manually, it don't show the picture that I saved. Like I showed on the other page as a screenshot. Why does it do that? Do I have to edit the registry?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 11:54 PM
aha, I think i remembered somthing. At my school on Windows 2000 computers, it does that. Then when I try to open a .jpg file in the microsoft picture editior on that computer, it says "file format imformation not found in registry."
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by Millenium_edition on 08-22-2004 at 11:57 PM
quote:ummm not true, you will have a bitmap with the jpg extension. it's like: you can rename a txt file to .exe but you won't have an executable =/
Originally posted by jren207
When you select something from a list, it doesn't add the .xxx extension. If you do it manually, it'll save with bmp quality but as another type.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by jren207 on 08-22-2004 at 11:59 PM
although i uploaded a file like that using a .jpg only service and it worked lol
but it is terrible on dial-up internet having good quality.
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by CookieRevised on 08-23-2004 at 09:08 AM
quote:in your case it is the second tab "windows setup".... then "bureau asso." or something and "ms paint"....
Originally posted by Sean
Umm its not there or I am not lookin hard enought... I deleted the registry tho....
quote:jren207, the things you're telling are totaly incorrect... I'm sorry... By changing the extension of a file you do NOT change the filetype.... The filetype is still what it was as you first saved it... This is a very bad way of dealing with files!...
Originally posted by jren207
Put .gif on the end of the filename but DON'T select gif from the filetype dropdown menu.
quote:because it is not a jpg.
Originally posted by Sean
Grrrr, I can save it with the extention .jpg, but then when I open it, it looks like the attached file.....
quote:Do NOT change the extension yourself!... if you want to save it as GIF select GIF from the menu and put GIF as an extension. Do NOT play with the file-extensions!
Originally posted by Sean
Hmm maby it is cause if this, It dont let me check to save as nothing, and put the file type at the end. I hope you get what I mean...
quote:Because the service only checks on file extension, not on file content. The file you've uploaded is NOT a jpg...
Originally posted by jren207
although i uploaded a file like that using a .jpg only service and it worked lol
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-23-2004 at 11:29 AM
Okay. Thanks cookie! Now, can you help me wit this stupid gif and when I save it it fucks up the colors? Is there a registry setting that I have to mess with to get it to work right?
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by CookieRevised on 08-23-2004 at 12:57 PM
attach the original file that you want to be saved as a gif...
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-23-2004 at 08:27 PM
No thats not the point....I want myself to be able to make .gif's when I save as and it don't mess up the picture...
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RaceProUK on 08-23-2004 at 09:39 PM
Then do your bitmaps in 8-bit colour. If you do them in 24-bit colour, then convert to GIF (8-bit), then you will lose the colour quality. Paint's filter is a bit crap really: use The GIMP instead
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by RebelSean on 08-25-2004 at 02:38 AM
Hmmm, but I want to save it as a gif and it not fuck it up...But for now I gues .jpg is okay altho its like crapy looking...
RE: Few questions about M$ paint... by lopardo on 08-25-2004 at 02:58 PM
Paint is very basic, don't expect much from it. I use xat.com Image Optimizer.