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Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 05:52 AM

I know for a fact that a friend of mine hacked my hotmail and nearly destroyed my forum and got access to my MSN which has a lot of things he CANNOT know about. I'd like to know if Gmail has any such weaknesses.

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by WDZ on 10-02-2004 at 06:30 AM

How did he hack your Hotmail account? I doubt it was actually a weakness in Hotmail, but rather something simpler like guessing your password. Any webmail system is "vulnerable" to that. :-/


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 07:24 AM

Hmmmmmm... I highly doubt that he guessed my password. See, he told someone how he did it and they told me... it all makes sense... although he could lie... just like him, that lying cracker-wannabe.

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by saralk on 10-02-2004 at 07:40 AM

more likely he sent you a file which actually had a trojan attatched to it and just found out your password that way, its pretty easy really.


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 07:54 AM

Hmmmm... yeah that could be it, he once copied the Sims files off me... >_> how can I stop him giving me Trojans?

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by saralk on 10-02-2004 at 08:53 AM

get a virus checker, a firewall and dont accept any dodgy looking files like "porn.exe"


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Chrono on 10-02-2004 at 09:01 AM

basically dont accept files from him :P


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 09:11 AM

Will Norton AV 2004 do it?

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Anubis on 10-02-2004 at 09:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Arkhan
Will Norton AV 2004 do it?
Yeah. Actually the most likely method he used is the good ol' n00b tactic of guessing your secret question...
RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 09:22 AM

Woot. Thanks. Do you have an idea how you make a trojan?

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Anubis on 10-02-2004 at 09:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Arkhan
Do you have an idea how you make a trojan?
I'm talking theoretically here; I won't talk about anything illegal.
It's hard to make a trojan, what most people do is take an already existing trojan (for example Sub7) and mod it for your own needs...But making one from scratch is some nifty programming...
RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 09:28 AM

Hmmm... but then what if he makes a new one that hasn't been seen before and Norton fails to pic it up?

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Anubis on 10-02-2004 at 09:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Arkhan
Hmmm... but then what if he makes a new one that hasn't been seen before and Norton fails to pic it up?
In that unlikely case, Norton may pick it up, it has an advanced search that allows it to pick up files that act like trojans. They all have similar scripts, and Norton should pick them up...
RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by saralk on 10-02-2004 at 10:28 AM

If you havent updated the definitions then there is a major security hole there, also your firewall should block it (if you have one)


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 10:54 AM

What if he had my IP adress? I know how he can easily get it. In fact, assume that he has it. He has it.

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by saralk on 10-02-2004 at 11:12 AM

if he has your IP address that wont be too much of a problem, unless your pc is infected with a trojan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by .Roy on 10-02-2004 at 11:16 AM

check for vireses using nortan :-D get a good firewall... and how can that person be a friend?? if he hacks into your stuff


Wait wait... do you have fire fox??? if so i have another idea how he got in :-D
RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 11:19 AM

Um, no I use Internet Explorer.

Oh and as for him being a friend... he's my good friend/arch enemy... but that's not the point of this topic.

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by .Roy on 10-02-2004 at 11:22 AM

hmm nvm because if you use fire fox i know you can check saved passwords :-D lol maybe if he came over to your house or if you came over to his  and clicked save password then yea :-D..


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 11:26 AM

...I don't think I clicked save password, I hope I wouldn't be that stupid. So either he

a) Hacked my hotmail like he said
b) sent a Trojan (he's done it before)
c) guessed it.

Ruling out C because he couldn't have guessed it.

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by toddy on 10-02-2004 at 11:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Arkhan
...I don't think I clicked save password, I hope I wouldn't be that stupid. So either he

a) Hacked my hotmail like he said
b) sent a Trojan (he's done it before)
c) guessed it.

Ruling out C because he couldn't have guessed it.

what about doing your secret question ?!?! and then changin your password

and it may seem like a bit of a silly question. but how do u know he has actually hacked it ? and not just said he has. has he changed/delete anything or owt like that  ?
RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Millenium_edition on 10-02-2004 at 11:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
It's hard to make a trojan, what most people do is take an already existing trojan (for example Sub7) and mod it for your own needs...But making one from scratch is some nifty programming...
a trojan is one of the easiest projects you can make...
quote:
Originally posted by DangerXone
hmm nvm because if you use fire fox i know you can check saved passwords :-D lol maybe if he came over to your house or if you came over to his  and clicked save password then yea :-D..
the passwords are encrypted... *sigh*
and if you're using IE it's the same.
quote:
Originally posted by toddy
what about doing your secret question ?!?! and then changin your password
that's probably it...
RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-02-2004 at 12:09 PM

*ahem* I know he actually hacked it because he then used a password recovery system on the forum I am an admin of to get my forum password then take screenshots of my admin CP. I thought he was tricking me though, so he changed his group to admin and gave himself privilages. I know that it was him because I'm the only admin. He admitted to it after.

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by b_birak on 10-03-2004 at 12:21 AM

Has this guy ever had access to your PC?

If so, he may have got any auto complete passwords by using programs available on the net. I know this because I got all my auto complate passwords up and deleted them and any internet history using this program.

IE doesn't clear all you history. So I advise you check your PC using a program like this.

Goto "NirSoft" (use google to find site address) and look for "Protected Storage PassView". It will show anything history left on your PC that IE has left.

You may find other good programs on there. By all means check them out too.

Also from now make sure you don't save any auto completes (eg forms etc). Goto Tools, Internet Options, Content, Auto Complete.

Apart from that, if there is anything else, I'll get back to you 2moro.


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-03-2004 at 12:36 AM

Okay. I'm also changing my password daily.

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by marissa on 10-03-2004 at 12:42 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
   
quote:
DangerXone
    hmm nvm because if you use fire fox i know you can check saved passwords lol maybe if he came over to your house or if you came over to his  and clicked save password then yea ..


the passwords are encrypted... *sigh*
and if you're using IE it's the same.


Someone of these forums sent me an .exe and they could acess these forums because i have my password saved:S i know who it is too by the way.
RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by paperless on 10-03-2004 at 02:04 AM

Well the harm is done just dont commit the same erors never accept something from that guy anymore or trust him..


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by dragon2611 on 10-03-2004 at 09:33 PM

i think it was prob the secret question thing ive known someone have their hotmail hacked that way.


i had someone try that on my yahoo account but it failed cus yahoo just emailed me a new password to my other email account......


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-03-2004 at 09:35 PM

Yeah, that's quite possible. Thanks

~Arkhan


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by VuDu on 10-03-2004 at 11:06 PM

hey!

one easy way to hack ur forums and emails is sending u a keylogger. that's pretty easy. u can put one into an image file, then it runs on the background and it can send emails with the logs to the email of the hacker. then u just need to check the logs for the logins and passwords :)

if u dont have an anti-virus or a spyware detection tool ur just a lamb in the middle of an african savanna :P

another reason may be the hotmail's changing passwords with the "secret question" wich is not that secret cause if u know where the contact is from u dont even need to know wich is the right question, u just need to guess the answer.

another way maybe be hacking ur forum and if u have an old version that is also very easy, and if u use the same passwords both on the email and forum login... u know what that means.
try to have ur forum version updated, install and anti virus like avast! 4 and periodically run an  ad-awarescan ;) that should solve ur problems, and btw dont forget to have a working firewall :)


RE: Gmail -- Weaknesses? by Arkhan on 10-03-2004 at 11:09 PM

Off topic: Actually I'm a demon in the middle of Australia.
On topic: But I have Norton 04.

~Arkhan