Alright ive had bout enough of the threads asking and i too would like to see it and not a reply about a link to a thread bout programs that do it. So who would like to see this plugin that can capture webcam video happen? Maybe if we all support it a dev (coughcoughihopetbcoughcough) will come along see that there are many people who would like to see it and dev it. Thanks

(BTW a link to the thread about PROGRAMS (some which are even trial and limited) that capture webcam video: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=18931 )

I say yes, merely because some of my webcam convos get interesting and the person on the other side wants it recording.

you have my vote but i'm really not sure if this whole petition stuff is worthfull...

Hmmmmmz I Started up just about the same poll only a few days ago... But no prob, you can borrow my idea anytime

Anyway... Go-4-The-Plugin! You've got my vote!

i dont think its to hard to make, maby when i have some time left i will have a look.
i bet you also want to record the sound

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Originally posted by Wouter
i dont think its to hard to make, maby when i have some time left i will have a look.
i bet you also want to record the sound

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i always wanted something like that
I used several external programs to do that but it's just stupid.

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Originally posted by çr@nK
i always wanted something like that
I used several external programs to do that but it's just stupid.

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Camtasia here...
it sucks cause if you move or resize the chat windows u have to move the litle box.
and whenever another window goes on top u will be recording that windows litle square instead of the video on the background

Hmm... I was just thinking.... Wouldn't it be possible to use another method than capturing the webcam area, as most programs do.... But instead, sniff the data being send, because it would definetly have a connection to internet, so wouldn't it be possible to "hijack" or sniff this connection and then get the data being send?.... then you wouldn't have all the trouble with mouse cursor being captured and stuff like that....?... I don't know if this sounds like a good idea but I was just wondering... ..

i dunno man... i mean.. it does get pretty creepy if u know ur contact is recording your webcam image /wout u knowing it..

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i dunno man... i mean.. it does get pretty creepy if u know ur contact is recording your webcam image /wout u knowing it..

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hm, id have to vote no for this, but since a lot of people will say yes, heres a <insert word to make something better>, make it so that it says that you're being recorded, like "so and so has accepted your invitation to start sending webcam" then after that, "you are now being recorded by (your name) with (name of plugin)"


just something i thought would be nice

blah there are some programs to record already, so u should be scared now even if the plugin doesnt exist

Chrono you got the point
the plugin wont give ppl a super cool new feature!!!! it'll just make the life easier to those who need it

A webcam recorder plug-in will do no harm I vote for it to be made it'll be a cool feature.

i voted yes, but i can live without it. i just think that it'd be lovely to have webcam again, especially if you're away or something, without having to set up all that shit

This gotta be made. So much demand....I mean amazing things have been made with plugins and this cant be done?? Theres gotta be a way


BTW about the sound i think its be better as another plugin but with colabro with this one that way they can sync or something....

for those who say that it's an invasion of privacy, i ask why are they even using msn messenger since the default preferences set it to log every conversation, it works the same way. u know ppl may log the convo and some may log the webcam, so if u want privacy just ask them not to log them and hope the other person to understand it

i vote yes, it won't hurt as long as you know how to manage the recorded video, and I WANT IT SO HARD CUZ I NEED TO RECORD EVERYTHING THAT I SEE ON WEBCAM, a cool plug-in would be, if someone has a camera konected to his computer and is online that you can capture video without the other person knowin you are recording him/her it would be like a candid camera

that would be 100% illegal

this plugin/program isn't becasue you are accepting that they can view you, and most people get recorded by CCTV at least once in their life so yeah using some twisted logic......

What would be good is if i could still broadcast my webcam to my webspace and msn messenger at the same time. I know there is a program that can take a picture set it as my DP then delete ALL my DP's then add a new webcam pic. HOWEVER it is not at all StuffPlug NG friendly with the SPNG pop up asking if you'd like to keep the original size yes/no every x seconds. This would be a cool plugin aswell btw

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that would be 100% illegal

this plugin/program isn't becasue you are accepting that they can view you, and most people get recorded by CCTV at least once in their life so yeah using some twisted logic......

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if you accept to chat with someone, and they log your chat, is that illegal too then?

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i think the only way that the webcam log isn't in the messenger is because it would take more tme of the programing and the relasion would be delayed and they only put the chat log and leave the program to be made by others one and available to be functional with the webcam log, so, SOMEONE make it, it isn't ilegal, it's fine, and everybody in your contac's list are, minimun friends of yours if not there wouldn't be in there

How is this illegal? Where's the law that forbids it?

It would be an extremely complex plugin, but I like the idea.

As for the privacy issue "they don't know I am recording", ... who stops you to use video capture soft, take screenshots or shoot it with a digital or video camera?

If you allow someone to read/listen/view you, you know they will be able to do whatever they want with that. (Otherwise why doesn't MSN Messenger or Plus alert WE ARE LOGGING YOUR CONVOS!!! to other contacts?

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all of my and cookie's replys have been deleted. Intresting....

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It would be an extremely complex plugin, but I like the idea.

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Originally posted by VuDu
for those who say that it's an invasion of privacy, i ask why are they even using msn messenger since the default preferences set it to log every conversation, it works the same way. u know ppl may log the convo and some may log the webcam, so if u want privacy just ask them not to log them and hope the other person to understand it

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all of my and cookie's replys have been deleted. Intresting....

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well marissa that could be a situation but what if i have a girlfriend that for sometime she has to move out to another country and she only use the internet a few hours like in tow weeks, if i record thewebcam i can be like with her and not feeling so apart but then if i couldn't record her it would be good to look at her but when she has to go is no more for few times.



and cookie i thought that you has replied to this post a few times

theres programs that do it. THATS WHAT I DONT GET! you people want a plugin for something thats already out there! like i said before somewhere [or in this thread] that everything doesnt have to be made attached to msn! People make programs for many purposes, the world doesnt revolve around msn messenger!


, < comma. use them, its hard to understand

sorry, but, if there are programsthat do that kind of stuff, why don't yo want it to be attached to messenger, if you show your ilegal stuff to somebody that somebody could record it with that program, same as in the case i said, but it would be easier if it's with messenger, that all that we all are saying

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if you show your ilegal stuff to somebody that somebody could record it with that program,

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don't be like that, i'm not saying that verything has to be in a plug-in only saying that it would be easier to use that kind of program in a plug-in

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Originally posted by marissa
theres programs that do it. THATS WHAT I DONT GET! you people want a plugin for something thats already out there! like i said before somewhere [or in this thread] that everything doesnt have to be made attached to msn! People make programs for many purposes, the world doesnt revolve around msn messenger!


, < comma. use them, its hard to understand

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oh, and since this is an "official" petition, i kinda wanna know why this plugin is SOOOOOOO needed.

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lol marissa, the reason is the same of those who use chat logs, ppl sometimes feel like recalling whatever happen in a past conversation and it can also be used as a proof for something.

just like the chat logs, does ur life depend on it? no... do u need it? sometimes...

u don't need something to be vital for ur survival to be worth making a plugin for it.
why da hell do u need plugins that put whatever song u r listening in ur nick? why are there plugins to warn you when someone opens ur windows?
some ppl may find it usefull, so just cause it isn't usefull to u, don't try to make it look useless to everyone.
cause if everyone gave their list of plugins they dont need... hum... it's better moving on to another subject

BTW if your reading this thread and thinking about all the fights happening inside go ahead and vote while your at it.

GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

it ain't here yet damn

guess this a vote for it

Well, I would like to log/record some of the crazy shit Traxor does on is Cam.....Like jumping out of his window and other stuff

Traxor your mad lol join teh crew

The point that marissa was making is that not everything has to be put in a plugin, (and certainly not all the things that aren't pure msn messenger related) while there are already existing programs out there which can do the same. (and much better, with more possebilities because they are designed for that purpose*.)

As for why people want a plugin that notifies you when a contact opens a convo; that's because that is a pure and specific MSN Messenger feature. Recording Webcams are not only a Messenger feature and the programs that exist out there do already exactly what you want...

Furthermore, this is a very difficult thing to make (as plugin or not, that's doesn't matter); and why inventing the difficult wheel again when there are already good alternatives out there...

Comparing this to chatlogging or open window notifiers isn't such a good comparisson because as I said these functions are pure MSN Messenger related functions. Recording a webcam is not.

Although, as for the fact that people want to log the things they do on the PC, yes that's true (but that wasn't marissa's point I believe).

If anyone wants to make this plugin, go ahead. But I doubt this will be made anytime soon...


* Imagine that someone makes this. I bet that there are suggestions in no-time like: "I want to save the file as .AVI, DivX, .MOV." etc... This is almost impossible todo as a plugin. Why? You need full blown encoders for each format to do that, making the plugin very huge (for a plugin) and almost unhandable. Logic choice and next step: make it into a standalone application. And there you have it. You've made a application which isn't specific for MSN Messenger anymore and you are just "wasting" your time creating such a thing because professional companies already made it and they did a far better job with a nice GUI, helpfiles, bugfree tools, etc...

All this is not to say it is impossible, but just to say that some things are better not included as a plugin/addon into an application to prevent bloated software and/or limitations and/or wasted time.

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* Imagine that someone makes this. I bet that there are suggestions in no-time like: "I want to save the file as .AVI, DivX, .MOV." etc... This is almost impossible todo as a plugin. Why? You need full blown encoders for each format to do that, making the plugin very huge (for a plugin) and almost unhandable. Logic choice and next step: make it into a standalone application. And there you have it. You've made a application which isn't specific for MSN Messenger anymore and you are just "wasting" your time creating such a thing because professional companies already made it and they did a far better job with a nice GUI, helpfiles, bugfree tools, etc...

All this is not to say it is impossible, but just to say that some things are better not included as a plugin/addon into an application to prevent bloated software and/or limitations and/or wasted time.

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Originally posted by riahc4
It should just record it in a non compressed RAW format like Fraps does.

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erm... that's just what I said: "codec"... and codec is not RAW....

and the reason why a RAW format doesn't exist for video is because you always need to know things like: FPS, resolution, bitrate, etc.... and the moment you declare that in your RAW format, it isn't a RAW format anymore, but a specific fileformat...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
erm... that's just what I said: "codec"... and codec is not RAW....

and the reason why a RAW format doesn't exist for video is because you always need to know things like: FPS, resolution, bitrate, etc.... and the moment you declare that in your RAW format, it isn't a RAW format anymore, but a specific fileformat...

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Originally posted by riahc4
i didnt mean a .RAW format i mean just a simple avi none encoded into anything.....it would problably be huge but thats problem of the user.

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the idea about saving as different formats is stupid. talking about your example, not even Fraps has that option.

a perfect plugin would be one that had an option to enable/disable automatically recording to a file the conversation and that had 2 "buttons" to play/pause and stop the recording

Couple of comments:

1.  Should the "plugin" (if one can be created) also record audio at the same time?  That is, if you are having a conversation with webcam AND audio (or a videoconference), should it record both video and audio?  What about just audio?  Should the plugin also allow for that?

2.  As already mentioned, I believe any "plugin" should notify the other person through the MSN chat window that their webcam session is being recorded.  It could even go so far as to send a message saying that the recording will begin in 10 seconds (and to "stop the webcam if you do not want it to be recorded"), then another saying when the recording has started. This would give the person time to end the webcam session if they don't want it to be recorded.

3.  With regards to other programs, I believe it would be easier if this fuction was accessible from within the MSN chat window.  It would also allow for Number 2 above, which I think is very important.

They are my thoughts. 

i dont agree with that. i don't think the other person should be notified. they aren't if u log the chat, so why would they need to with the video or audio?
even if u use camtasia and similar programs to record it, the other person isn't warned about it.
ppl just have to realise that u can't do whatever u want on msn, it's just like in the movies "everything said may and will be used against  you"

that's the wrong idea that is going on ppls minds. many think that they can say/do whatever they want on webcam/audio, same things happened with earlier windows messenger where u could chat  on everyones back talking shit about whoever they wanted.

if in real life things don't work that way, if u accept to turn webcam on, u have to understand ppl have the right to used that against u.
that's how i think.
of course they can do illegal things with it. but hey, no one forbids u  to go on a public space with a camcorder, make a video and use it illegally

bleh the main reson i have  against this is that the person recording can send your webcam convo to there friends insted of them being the only one who see's it

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Couple of comments:

1.  Should the "plugin" (if one can be created) also record audio at the same time?  That is, if you are having a conversation with webcam AND audio (or a videoconference), should it record both video and audio?  What about just audio?  Should the plugin also allow for that?

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2.  As already mentioned, I believe any "plugin" should notify the other person through the MSN chat window that their webcam session is being recorded.  It could even go so far as to send a message saying that the recording will begin in 10 seconds (and to "stop the webcam if you do not want it to be recorded"), then another saying when the recording has started. This would give the person time to end the webcam session if they don't want it to be recorded.

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3.  With regards to other programs, I believe it would be easier if this fuction was accessible from within the MSN chat window.  It would also allow for Number 2 above, which I think is very important.

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Like stated should we then tell automatically our contacts we're recording their convo??

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Originally posted by riahc4
All plugins are....The Plus! Menu is there for a reason..

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well , i don't know much about programin but i'm thinking, when are we going to stop talking?, and someone please do the plugin, let's better to make a list of programer who are willing to participate in the creation of this pluggin and then let's tlak how are we gonna make it, that would be better than have just the dream

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Originally posted by tda87
well , i don't know much about programin but i'm thinking, when are we going to stop talking?, and someone please do the plugin, let's better to make a list of programer who are willing to participate in the creation of this pluggin and then let's tlak how are we gonna make it, that would be better than have just the dream

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ok, now, can some programer say he or shwee will start with it?

well yes.. even though i dont need it.. but if a lot of people want it then ill help you get it Doesnt seem to be a problem

great!!!! seems like good news

anyone else who wants to help?

i always want to do that. is anyone there that could give me some tips?

....so theres people that are accually gonna attempt to create it??


I would help but i cant apport much when it comes to programming. I could translate if you guys wish or if you show me something basic i could help.

forgotten?

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forgotten?

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I think it sounds like a good idea, handy to capture those special moments lol.

.........YO YO YO !!!

Very nice idea .. go on ...

Hmm...............  interesting topic

I like this idea, purly because its kool ..  but just because someone likes the idea of something, doesn't always mean it should be done. Im not saying it shouldn't be done, but if it was i think more thought should be put into it.

As for the "whats illigal" situation. Firstly, your on the bloody webcam to begin with, and if there is something you wouldn't want recorded then you shouldn't be doing it anyway. On the other hand, recording is a lot different as its stored footage. Which can be sent to other people, uploaded.. ect ect..  and im thinking this is one of the reasons people have said it would be an idea to send an "Acceptance" of the recording to the contact before making it possible. And although this is a good idea, there is always ways around these things isnt there

Anyway, im not going to vote yes or no, because i dont really care that on wether someone should make it.. because there is already programs out there that do this, just with some configuration and settings ect.. this would just be an alternative.

but its something new.. and would be something id get.. i guess

My 2.

well, we need help and someone with enough time to do it, PROGRAMERS, PLESE!!! JELP US!!!, there are like 85% of everybody who wants this, if you    have time , pleae take this proyect, thanks

When u guyz gonna release video capture plugin ?

have u started work on it yet or not ?

i strongly dislike this suggestion and sug no one makes it.

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Originally posted by noname22
i strongly dislike this suggestion and sug no one makes it.

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Look this would have my vote, yes i know there are screen capture programs but these are anoying and time consumign especaially as you cant mvoe your window then.  I think this would really be popular! A simple plugin where you could select your codec and record ina  few button strokes it would be marvolous!

But wats the point, its a bit creepy n e wayz.  the person on the webcam might not know that ur recording it which would be creepy, the reason some people want this is so they can record some poor chic flashing her self on the webcam so they can pound it while watching the recorded video.

you just have a pervert mind, that's not our primary objective with the plugin

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you just have a pervert mind, that's not our primary objective with the plugin

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maybe, but that's not the reason, everyone have a different use for the same thing

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But wats the point, its a bit creepy n e wayz.  the person on the webcam might not know that ur recording it which would be creepy, the reason some people want this is so they can record some poor chic flashing her self on the webcam so they can pound it while watching the recorded video.

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Meh, if there is already programs that can do this y bother these programmers.

Well ..... i suggest that create a plugin which don't records the video conversation ... make a plugin in which we can hijack others webcam & see their webcams without their permissions ..

NOTE : CREATE AT YOUR OWN RISK. [ lol ]
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too many sick kids in this forum.



for those that say that it shouldnt be done cause there're already software that does it... i ask you why ppl use bikes, cars, and trains? if u can walk, why bother the engeneers to build something faster and easier to work with?

if u're afraid of loosing pravacy, i wonder why u use msn messenger at all, since it logs what u say!!! runn!!

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Meh, if there is already programs that can do this y bother these programmers.

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for those that say that it shouldnt be done cause there're already software that does it... i ask you why ppl use bikes, cars, and trains? if u can walk, why bother the engeneers to build something faster and easier to work with?

if u're afraid of loosing pravacy, i wonder why u use msn messenger at all, since it logs what u say!!! runn!!

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so is this gonna be made?

in short: No....



The toppost was posted more then a month ago and this thread has been one of the top threads since then (because of the many bumps ). But the actual request for saving the webcam in MSN Messenger is very old (think in terms of years!).

By now, some plugin developer already have seen this and if interested he/she would have made the plugin. Every plugin developer knows about this request already.

This plugin is far from easy to make, as said multiple times already, and is almost out of scope of most plugin developers.

It is of no use to keep requesting this and bumping this thread.

So, sorry to burst the bubble, but it is NOT going to be made.

If you want it that bad, then either learn how to program and make it yourself or use some of the tools listed here:
"Capturing WebCam Video in MSN Messenger 6.x"

I would suggest that seomthing like a webcam invitation be added. Example:

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Person 2 says:
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Person 1 has invited you to start viewing webcam.
Accept or Decline?

Person 1 wants to record your webcam.
Accept or Decline?

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if they dont want to be recorded why would they accept the webcam in the first place?

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if they dont want to be recorded why would they accept the webcam in the first place?

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now uve had 90 votes for YES ... does this mean that someone is working on it or ... all this was useless ???

well i think if you use it there should be a warning like 'your contact may record this session' so you're contact is aware you MAY be

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now uve had 90 votes for YES ... does this mean that someone is working on it or ... all this was useless ???

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there was the msn recorder thing but it was very dodgy go search google for it i think it was on msn fanatic ???

Couldn't a Plugin like this crash Messenger? Webcams makes alot of Computers lag anyway. This would just add to the problems, right?

If you want to capture webcam images... I'm almost sure Messenger Discovery X does it.... So get that.

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Couldn't a Plugin like this crash Messenger? Webcams makes alot of Computers lag anyway. This would just add to the problems, right?

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If you want to capture webcam images... I'm almost sure Messenger Discovery X does it.... So get that.

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MSN Webcam Recorder

http://ml20rc.msnfanatic.com/

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If you want to capture webcam images... I'm almost sure Messenger Discovery X does it.... So get that.

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Would You Like To See a Plugin that can capture webcam video?
Yes*     
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No     
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Total:     116 votes     100%

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gor the MSN webcam recorder i don't know how to use it, it record's all video conversation but i don't know how to save then or to play them, but at least i know there's something that records the webcam better than camstia

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MSN Webcam Recorder

http://ml20rc.msnfanatic.com/

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hello,

I don't have much free time to make a msgplug plugin out of my program. I've just moved and classes are starting again.

I know the recorder is kind of ugly and not user-friendly, but I'm writing it in a 'works for me' basis. If any programmer is serious about writing a plugin, I would help as much as I can, just write to my e-mail (it's on http://ml20rc.msnfanatic.com ). Also, it's open source, you can get it in the download page.

I really hope someone can do this, recording and playing the webcam video is not that hard once you get the hang of it.

bye,
Ramiro Polla

btw VuDu, there's not even the need to restart msn after installing.

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now uve had 90 votes for YES ... does this mean that someone is working on it or ... all this was useless ???

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Perhaps that fact that this topic is over 8 months old may tell you something..

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Damn I didnt even notice this got resurected...

I didn't read the entire thread, and I'm too tired to do so atm (just got back from holiday).
Just wanna give my input:
I know it's possible, although it would involve some rather advanced stuff.
I also know that it's wtbw's idea, and I'm not touching it unless I get his permission. as far as I'm concerned, it's his project

this feature is OK, but its in some ways going against privacy laws 

.. just thought if there can b the addition of audio streaming along with this plugin ..

couz then .. probably the next thing ppl would ask would b of audio streaming .. so how bout keeping it along with this one