Hi,

I was thinking here... If with the stuff plug-in we are able to know when someone open or close our conversation window, then it might be possible to know the message the other people is writing.

Does this plug-in exists? I dunno... but i think its possible to do, Am I wrong?

Thx for the attention

You will see what the other person is typing as soon as he/she hits "send"...if you mean seeing what somebody else types to anyone else but you: thats an invasion of privacy...there is no such plugin and for the reason mentioned there will never be one.

It cannot be seen what the other person is writing; the text will be sent only to the server after clicking the Send button. If he/she hasn't done that yet, there's no way to know what's been typed.

If there were such a plugin, it could be terrible privacy invasion...so the answer is NO.

Whenever your contact opens/closes the conversation window, his Messenger sends a special notification to your Messenger. This is a Messenger's internal function, and the notification sends no matter StuffPlug is installed or not; StuffPlug just interprets the notification and shows it to you. When your contact is typing something to you, yes, Messenger does send another kind of notification too, but only the notification of "Typing message", not the whole message your contact's typing...

No, u dont understand, I dont wanna know what someone is typing to another person. What I wanna know is what someone is typing to me (but dont send it to me yet, understand?).

Wanna know what my contact is typing to me, but not sended yet (in real time then)

EDIT: Just read the other messages now. Thank you for the answers and sry.

hi, i think what Firehalk means is the INITIAL chat content that is going to send to the him before the enter key is hit. this wont be an invade of privacy since the message was intented to send to you in the first place, kind of interesting

i was wondering can this be done too

Only if another application was made that hooks into the window and sends the typing info over the internet to your own receiving application, but this could be a little tricky.
In this case your other contact would need an application on their computer.
Due to the nature of this software there would be major potential security risks...

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Originally posted by saintgtril
this wont be an invade of privacy since the message was intented to send to you in the first place, kind of interesting

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Originally posted by WDZ

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Originally posted by saintgtril
this wont be an invade of privacy since the message was intented to send to you in the first place, kind of interesting

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I disagree completely.

What if you type something that you don't really mean, or make a mistake, and want to rephrase it before sending? Or what if you accidentally paste some private info in the message box? Or if you just type a MsgPlus IRC command?

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Originally posted by Firehalk
ICQ in the chat mode have this function, so I think its not invade of privacy.

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Originally posted by Firehalk
No, u dont understand, I dont wanna know what someone is typing to another person. What I wanna know is what someone is typing to me (but dont send it to me yet, understand?).

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Originally posted by Firehalk
ICQ in the chat mode have this function, so I think its not invade of privacy.

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Originally posted by Firehalk
ICQ in the chat mode have this function, so I think its not invade of privacy.
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Yes it IS! It is not because another program has this feature that it isn't an invasion of privacy. Since MSN Messenger does NOT have this feature it WILL be an invasion of privacy if you create something like that because the user wouldn't know that his typing is being monitored
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It won't be invasion sincewhat you type in the chatr box is intended to be send, if you regret what you want to send that is personal issues in the decision but you also wanted to say something else, in that way, when you aren't decided to tell the trhut about somenthing and then suddenly you changed you mind to tell something with the hidden thruth you will know

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Originally posted by Anubis

ICQ may have this feature, but that doesn't make it not an impolite function. I have said things to a contact in that box and then decided against it...Personally I only want people to see what I have said to them directly...

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Originally posted by tda87
It won't be invasion sincewhat you type in the chatr box is intended to be send

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by tda87
It won't be invasion sincewhat you type in the chatr box is intended to be send

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And there, on the first line, you are already wrong... MSN Messenger doesn't work that way. What you type is NOT nessecairly meant to be send...

aka: invasion of privacy

no matter how hard you try to say it isn't...

period.

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it would also take up a load of memory wont it.... cos it will have to be constantly sending what they are writing even if they dont write anything making msn much slower??

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Originally posted by benjyrama
it would also take up a load of memory wont it.... cos it will have to be constantly sending what they are writing even if they dont write anything making msn much slower??

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yeh but its integrated into ICQ but this will be added on top and might not go down too well with the actual program work rate thingy...

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Originally posted by tda87
ok, look at this, i am conected in your contac list, you open the chat box, and write down in the chat box something the you rethink about it and changed it, the intention, the only motion to make you write in the chat box, is that you want to tell me, if you deleted and then didn't send it to me, cuz you then want to tell me forget it, or you think it would start a discussion and then you deleted it, BUT, your intention was to tell me something, the only reason to write something in the chat box is to CHAT, is the CHAT BOX, so it would be legal because you are only getting the information faster that is being writed in the CHAT BOX, so IT'S LEGAL

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Fully agree with CookieRevised, WDZ, and the others... it's:
a) Technically IMPOSSIBLE to do as a plugin (i.e., not much sense in discussing it)

b) A huge privacy hole, no matter how certain you are that the universe was meant so that those messages arrived to you in the end... There's a send button for a reason, period.

c) the Chat in ICQ is completely different from its normal IM windows, users know their typing is being monitored and in fact that's the whole fun of that mode.

yes such a plugin would be and invasion of privacy, but i think it would be a great feature to add on a future MSN Messenger version. people are talking about a chat with the MSN Development Team, would someone ask that to the "Experts"? I think it would be a nice feature, just like in ICQ whoever wants to chat like that, does so.. and whoever doesn't feels like doing it, can always chat on the old way

anyone suporting this idea?

Maybe, but I wonder how many people will actually use/enable it. Also it DOES create a big overhead on the servers, and that will proberly the reason why this will never be added inside Messenger itself. (not to mention that the protocol needs to be updated, just for this "simple" feature)

Also, if it was implemented, you will never be able to view your contacts typing unless your contact himself has enabled it. You will not be able to enable it for them of course...

mybe it could use a direct connection between both ends of the conversation, like on a file transfear. i'm not into the protocol so...

i'd use it, it's a cool feature, i remeber when i used ICQ that i liked chatting like that cause u could tell how fast the other person was typing, and it made me think more before writing
on a direct 1on1 conversation is very usefull cause it makes it way closer to a voice chat and if u can write and look at the screen at the same time... then.. wow

actually.. since i keep the msn chat windows open a lot of the time.. i often use the msn chat window as a temporary clipboard so that i can copy-and-paste a bunch of different things together and edit something that is totally irrelavent
if this function exist i bet the other user will be pretty puzzled at the garbage i wrote in the box = =

personally i already didn't quite like the build-in feature that tells the other side that i'm writing a message. anything beyond that would be really rude

take a look at the way ICQ handles it i bet u'd like it too the way it is used in ICQ i think it's pretty positive. but still this discussion has no really meaning in this section since it's almost impossible to be get that feature from a plugin

like i said before maybe on a futere MSN Messenger release... personally i'd like to c it on MSN too