First of all, this is not an accusation, but a genuine question...

Whenever I run the latest version of tabbed msn (update 2.1, 8-1-2004) it opens up a port (usually 0 but i have seen it use 7000) and starts downloading from 108.252.18.0:4096. The weird thing is only netlimiter(www.netlimiter.com) seems to be able to detect or block this. Keiro Pesonal Firewall and  Outpost Pro do not even see the open port, blocking the i address does nothing, and the network status lights do not show any traffic.

The other thing is that I dont see any traffic going out of my computer from tabbed msn - not one byte.

It only happens in the latest version of tabbed msn, earlier versions i have are fine (but have other bugs).

Can anyone else confirm this? It seems very strange that netlimiter would be the only program able to detect the connection, but it can't be just imagining it. I imagine a hardware monitor would be more reliable in detecting any traffic, but do not have access to one.

Unfortunately netlimiter can't block the connection completely, only speed limit it, so I won't be using tabbed msn until I get this sorted out

Any halp would be appreciated, as long as it is not just unfounded accusations/defense of tabbed msn

I can't confirm/deny this, but I would like to state how unlikely a plug-in like this would have spyware in it.

are you sure that it is really tabbed msn which does this? im using tabbed msn too and i never had any problems. i don't think any plugin makers here put spyware into their plugins >.<"

offtopic: blade, gearing up for Xmas?

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Originally posted by uryan
The weird thing is only netlimiter(www.netlimiter.com) seems to be able to detect or block this. Keiro Pesonal Firewall and  Outpost Pro do not even see the open port, blocking the i address does nothing, and the network status lights do not show any traffic.

The other thing is that I dont see any traffic going out of my computer from tabbed msn - not one byte.

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When you run the installer it opens the browser to some game website.

Thanks for the replies...

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Originally posted by blade
I can't confirm/deny this, but I would like to state how unlikely a plug-in like this would have spyware in it.

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Originally posted by FrozernFire
are you sure that it is really tabbed msn which does this?

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Originally posted by WDZ

Well, that probably means that there isn't any traffic. The IP address 108.252.18.0 is in a range reserved by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), so I don't think it can be used on the internet. All attempts to connect to it fail.

I dunno why a program would try opening a connection to that IP...

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Originally posted by Black_Forky
When you run the installer it opens the browser to some game website

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and the other screenshot... (is there a way to put both in one msg?)

euhm how about use the search button next time youll post crap like this

the programm does not contain spyware or whatever stupid things you cum up next.

delete topic please

euhm what exactly was the search button meant to tell me?
Don't give me that kind of crap. it was a serious question, and not at all unreasonable.

If a program that's designed to monitor connections and network traffic shows that there's a connection and network traffic, then one would assume that...um...theres a connection and some traffic! Something is happening, even if it isn't malicious or intentional.

The fact is that it only happens in the newest version (or perhaps in a few versions i've missed) and therefore there must be something you have changed wittingly or otherwise. The other versions do listen according to netlimiter but never actually connect to anything.

I was hoping that maybe you could fill me in one something that might have changed to cause this, but you apparently seem incapable of holding a discussion. Can I say it doesn't surprise me you got banned from IRC. Prove me wrong if you wish.

If anyone else has any insites or information that would be helpful, I would still be most appreciative. May I remind everyone of my first post

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Originally posted by uryan
First of all, this is not an accusation, but a genuine question...
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Any help would be appreciated, as long as it is not just unfounded accusations/defense of tabbed msn

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Originally posted by Wouter
euhm how about use the search button next time youll post crap like this

the programm does not contain spyware or whatever stupid things you cum up next.

delete topic please

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Originally posted by uryan
euhm what exactly was the search button meant to tell me?
Don't give me that kind of crap. it was a serious question, and not at all unreasonable.

you apparently seem incapable of holding a discussion. Can I say it doesn't surprise me you got banned from IRC. Prove me wrong if you wish.
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Any help would be appreciated, as long as it is not just unfounded accusations/defense of tabbed msn

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Originally posted by Alpha Binary

your behavior is disgusting. i would expect more from a man of your education who can program.
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Originally posted by Alpha Binary

uryan: nevertheless after encountering the exactly same problem using his openConvo, and intense network activity monitoring, i came to a conclusion that it is only a bug in Netlimiter and should not be worried about. after trying for two days i uninstalled both of them anyway.

i'd recommend stuffplug-ng which also has the same feature. hope my reply has helped you.

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Well, so basicly you wanna thank everyone execpt me!
oh well it not like i spended hours of programming on this project
but thanks

Sorry, you did not read my post correctly. When I said that I use helped in the loosest sense possible, I thought that included everyone. Yes I am grateful for the work you have put into this program, no I do not appreciate the way you have responded in this thread. And flaming anyone who suggests that it might be downloading something (and i still maintain it was a resonable thing to ask) isn't going to allay any suspicions. Of course no developer would admit to placing spyware in software, whether he did or not.
Anyway, I now consider the matter closed unless anyone has any new information (I am still curious, just not particularly concerned)

Wouter, I don't understand why you're being so rude. Instead of being an ass and alienating users, why not try to help? uryan is simply curious about a suspicious connection, and would like an explanation. He has not accused you of anything.