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Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by nekki on 11-03-2004 at 06:46 AM

How can I delete this bar in message window?

Thanks for helping to slove this problem.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by John on 11-03-2004 at 09:29 AM

That's weird. :S Try resizing the chat window a few times and also try hiding the title bar a few times (by clicking on the little button with the arrows on the top left corner of the chat window). :)


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by Sunshine on 11-03-2004 at 09:55 AM

This could be caused by the new Msg Plus! Beta if you're not using MSN 7 beta i suggest you uninstall it and go back to using plus! 3.25.106.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by RaceProUK on 11-03-2004 at 11:48 AM

It only happens in MSN7: I have MSN6.2 and MSN7 running side-by-side at the moment, and that white bar only appears in MSN7.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by John on 11-03-2004 at 11:58 AM

I figured out how to fix it..

I installed Messenger Plus! 3.40b, then the latest MSN Messenger 7.0 Beta and then ran the Mess Patch for MSN Messenger Beta. I had the same problem, that white bar at the bottom.

Then to fix it I ran the Mess Patch again (make sure you have all the options ticked), restarted Messenger and the white bar was gone. :)


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by nekki on 11-03-2004 at 02:33 PM

The solution has been posted in mess forum.

http://www.mastaline.com/?pagina=msn/downloads/info&dlnow=44

It can be solved by this patch.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by Jessica on 11-03-2004 at 11:03 PM

The Mestaline patch doesnt work. Tried it. I get a message saying "Cant not open a coversation window" with any of my contacts.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by matty on 11-03-2004 at 11:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jessica
The Mestaline patch doesnt work. Tried it. I get a message saying "Cant not open a coversation window" with any of my contacts.
By any chance do you have Windows 98 or ME?
RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by Jessica on 11-03-2004 at 11:12 PM

No, I have XP just like everyone else. It's not me or my computer, other people are having a problem getting the patch to work, this guy over in Mess.be forums had the same problem as me. But I did what Jaguar, installed the Patch to removes the "Beta" word etc. and it fixed it.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-04-2004 at 12:32 AM

That little box or whatever you want to call it will be used to deliver information [Or maybe ads] to MSN Messenger Users. It'll sort of be like a news/stock ticker.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by EvilSeph on 11-04-2004 at 12:41 AM

That's uncomfirmed until Microsoft publicly announce it, as such don't believe anything until it's officially announced, I don't want another "animated display picture" rumour situation to arise.


RE: RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-04-2004 at 12:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by EvilSeph
That's uncomfirmed until Microsoft publicly announce it, as such don't believe anything until it's officially announced, I don't want another "animated display picture" rumour situation to arise.

lolz....Trust me I wouldn't post something like that unless it came from a reliable source. Now with that being said. the source of that info came from a MSN Offical in the MSN Messenger Beta NG.
RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by EvilSeph on 11-04-2004 at 01:04 AM

I'm not too sure whether or not information posted in a private newsgroup is considered public information. Now I'm new to the Beta NG's so please forgive me if I'm wrong, but..isn't there an NDA that I think you just violated?


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-04-2004 at 01:08 AM

Ok, well your not suppose to be talking about stuff that happens in the NG, however though, you easily go to Mess.Be and read the same thing. Kinda of a double stanard if what i said was a breach.  They post info and leaks of the MSN Messenger all the time. In essence, you could just say I was just confirming that it isn't a rumour.


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by Millenium_edition on 11-04-2004 at 01:18 AM

[offtopic]damn... another rip of gilly messenger[/offtopic] :|


RE: RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-04-2004 at 01:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
[offtopic]damn... another rip of gilly messenger[/offtopic] :|

Gilly Messenger? That would be? *-)
RE: RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by Hank on 11-04-2004 at 01:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ryan92
That little box or whatever you want to call it will be used to deliver information [Or maybe ads] to MSN Messenger Users. It'll sort of be like a news/stock ticker.


an how do you know this for sure? do you work for Micro$oft?  its just pure Speculation that it will be an advertisement area ATM, time will tell what it will be when Public Beta comes out or the Final, Maybe Patchou will Know an can inform us when he Returns,

RE: RE: RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-04-2004 at 02:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Demandred
quote:
Originally posted by ryan92
That little box or whatever you want to call it will be used to deliver information [Or maybe ads] to MSN Messenger Users. It'll sort of be like a news/stock ticker.


an how do you know this for sure? do you work for Micro$oft?  its just pure Speculation that it will be an advertisement area ATM, time will tell what it will be when Public Beta comes out or the Final, Maybe Patchou will Know an can inform us when he Returns,


Yup, I work for MS:P. Naw, I'm on the test team and they were briefly talking about it in the NG.  As I said before, that little box will be for ads or either delivering news, information or something of that sort.
RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by Hank on 11-04-2004 at 03:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ryan92

Yup, I work for MS. Naw, I'm on the test team and they were briefly talking about it in the NG.  As I said before, that little box will be for ads or either delivering news, information or something of that sor

  if its true, Bring on the Cracks  to Erase it

RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-04-2004 at 03:09 AM

A patch to get rid of it has already been released, but the person who  made it was also on the test team and was kicked off it.


RE: RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by nekki on 11-04-2004 at 04:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Jessica
The Mestaline patch doesnt work. Tried it. I get a message saying "Cant not open a coversation window" with any of my contacts.


Did you install the mess patch?
If so, you must restore old files by the restore function of mess patch and patch it again without active options that are "Remove AD banner" and "Remove MSN search bar".
Then you can use Mestaline patch to remove the ad bar in conversation window.

Finally you can use Daniel's patch to remove ad bar and search bar in the contact list window.

It is so annoying, I know. :P
RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by Jessica on 11-04-2004 at 05:29 AM

Uh, I fixed it a long time a go with Daniel's patch, don't need Mestaline's non-working patch. Cos it's fixed. Been fixed!


RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by AlwaysSmilingGuy on 11-04-2004 at 11:58 PM

Ryan,
    What was said in the NG was "Content". NOT Ads.  Content could include Ads, but it could also be the part where it says "So and So is typing" or even how long you've been in contact with them.  Until someone from Microsoft actually says "This will be for Ads", no one knows.

    Also, knowing that someone in the testing group was removed for creating a crack to fix this, do you want to risk violating the NDA by posting anything about the beta?

     Finally, for everyone else.  Since the beta was 'leaked' out, you're technically discussing "Illegal Warez" on here.    If the OP is a beta tester, then they should have consulted the proper forum for posting the question.. If they're not, then they are discussing an illegally obtained software, which is violating Patchou's TOU.


>>>Edited shortly after the Original Post.....
You may not post illegal things or information about them. This includes, but is not limited to:

    * warez, or other illegally distributed software.
    * hacking tools.
    * pornography or nudity not safe for children.

(Taken from The Terms of Use that you agreed to, when signing up for your account).

How does this pertain to this post you ask?  Because the people who created the plugins had to 'hack' the program (reverse engineer, decompile, or other means) in order to get their plugins to work.  Also, the version of Messenger is illegally obtained, in that someone who wasn't supposed to give it out to the public did so.



ASG

PS Evil Seph is correct.  Just because other people are violating the NDA, doesn't make it right for you (or me, for that matter) to violate it too.


RE: RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-05-2004 at 01:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by AlwaysSmilingGuy
Ryan,
    What was said in the NG was "Content". NOT Ads.  Content could include Ads, but it could also be the part where it says "So and So is typing" or even how long you've been in contact with them.  Until someone from Microsoft actually says "This will be for Ads", no one knows.

    Also, knowing that someone in the testing group was removed for creating a crack to fix this, do you want to risk violating the NDA by posting anything about the beta?

     Finally, for everyone else.  Since the beta was 'leaked' out, you're technically discussing "Illegal Warez" on here.    If the OP is a beta tester, then they should have consulted the proper forum for posting the question.. If they're not, then they are discussing an illegally obtained software, which is violating Patchou's TOU.


>>>Edited shortly after the Original Post.....
You may not post illegal things or information about them. This includes, but is not limited to:

    * warez, or other illegally distributed software.
    * hacking tools.
    * pornography or nudity not safe for children.

(Taken from The Terms of Use that you agreed to, when signing up for your account).

How does this pertain to this post you ask?  Because the people who created the plugins had to 'hack' the program (reverse engineer, decompile, or other means) in order to get their plugins to work.  Also, the version of Messenger is illegally obtained, in that someone who wasn't supposed to give it out to the public did so.



ASG

PS Evil Seph is correct.  Just because other people are violating the NDA, doesn't make it right for you (or me, for that matter) to violate it too.

All valid points there. My bad on the point about ads. (N). About the NDA issue, well that news about the content was already posted on Mess.be. So really all I did, was confirming that it wasn't rumour about the content being down there in the box.
RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by EvilSeph on 11-05-2004 at 01:56 AM

I could go further by posting a quote from the NDA, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do so. I believe most, if not all, NDA's disallow you from spreading information that has surfaced as a result of someone else violating their NDA (correct me if I'm wrong). About Mess.be posting about there being content in the blank bar at the bottom of the conversation window, they could have gotten the information from VorteX who has been removed for infringing the Beta's ToS and NDA or from another tester who is a member of Mess.be, either way it's a violation of NDA on someones part and I don't beleive we should put ourselves at risk by jumping on the bandwagon.

The news about animated display pictures was confirmed by "trusted sources" and look what happened then? Microsoft, themselves, never announced a new feature that allowed animated display pictures, but because it was confirmed by "trusted sources" people believed it and the rumour grew. It practically became "fact" amongst the community and people were angry at why it wasn't included in later MSN Messenger builds and even MSN Messenger 6.x. I've had to deal with the complaints regarding this for a while now and I for one don't want another "animated display picture" epidemic to surface regarding the blank bar at the bottom of the conversation window.

I'm only taking preventitive measures to stop it from happening again. I'm not saying it won't be used for ads or it will be, I'm merely saying don't believe anything anyone *but* a Microsoft representative says. If it turns out to be ads, that's fine. If not, that's fine too and at least we've avoided a "animated display picture" epidemic from occuring again. (I use epidemic because my mind is blank right now and I can't think of a better word :p).

Direct note to Ryan: No offence intended or anything, I'm just really careful about recreating a "animated display picture" epidemic. As I'm part of the team of helpers in the Messenger Plus! IRC channel, and it makes our duty a living hell when people come in there to moan about the "promised" feature that wasn't added or wondering how to enable the "hidden" feature that allows for animated display pictures.


RE: RE: Blank bar in the bottom of message window? by ryan92 on 11-05-2004 at 02:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by EvilSeph
I could go further by posting a quote from the NDA, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do so. I believe most, if not all, NDA's disallow you from spreading information that has surfaced as a result of someone else violating their NDA (correct me if I'm wrong). About Mess.be posting about there being content in the blank bar at the bottom of the conversation window, they could have gotten the information from VorteX who has been removed for infringing the Beta's ToS and NDA or from another tester who is a member of Mess.be, either way it's a violation of NDA on someones part and I don't beleive we should put ourselves at risk by jumping on the bandwagon.

The news about animated display pictures was confirmed by "trusted sources" and look what happened then? Microsoft, themselves, never announced a new feature that allowed animated display pictures, but because it was confirmed by "trusted sources" people believed it and the rumour grew. It practically became "fact" amongst the community and people were angry at why it wasn't included in later MSN Messenger builds and even MSN Messenger 6.x. I've had to deal with the complaints regarding this for a while now and I for one don't want another "animated display picture" epidemic to surface regarding the blank bar at the bottom of the conversation window.

I'm only taking preventitive measures to stop it from happening again. I'm not saying it won't be used for ads or it will be, I'm merely saying don't believe anything anyone *but* a Microsoft representative says. If it turns out to be ads, that's fine. If not, that's fine too and at least we've avoided a "animated display picture" epidemic from occuring again. (I use epidemic because my mind is blank right now and I can't think of a better word :p).

Direct note to Ryan: No offence intended or anything, I'm just really careful about recreating a "animated display picture" epidemic. As I'm part of the team of helpers in the Messenger Plus! IRC channel, and it makes our duty a living hell when people come in there to moan about the "promised" feature that wasn't added or wondering how to enable the "hidden" feature that allows for animated display pictures.

Oh yeah, I agree with you there that you're trying to avoid a Animated Diplay type thing again. No one wants that again. That was torture when that rumour was flying around on other boards too. About the NDA, part, welll I'm not sure about that, but I see the point your trying to get across (Y).