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Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by Choli on 11-13-2004 at 07:55 PM

Original new: http://slashdot.org/articles/04/11/13/0036243.sht...=201&tid=109&tid=1

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RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by saralk on 11-13-2004 at 08:19 PM

So does this mean major sueage for Microsoft?

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by KeyStorm on 11-13-2004 at 08:26 PM

This basically means that Microsoft man-in-charge for sound in WMP used a cracked version of SoundForge (a professional sound edition software) as we can see in the waterprint of the wav files.

Can't stop laughing at those guys... they are getting dodgier every day. Doesn't MS don't have enough money to BUY professional tools? :dodgy:

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by bach_m on 11-13-2004 at 08:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
So does this mean major sueage for Microsoft?


it means major baddage for microsoft. thye'll probably be forced to update WMP and remove the offending code.
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by saralk on 11-13-2004 at 08:28 PM

well isnt someone gona get pissed that their work was used illegaly all over?

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by ShawnZ on 11-13-2004 at 08:30 PM

lets see... [ the price of acid soundforge + the fine for the piracy ] * oh around 2 billion equals....

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by Anubis on 11-13-2004 at 08:33 PM

I did a look into Deepz0ne and his software cracking group, a lot has been covered over but from what I got they go around cracking software for others to use (like you'd expect) but they are one of the big players...
But why would M$ use warez? They could easily get the company to let them use their software with good ol' cash...or find an alternative. However the evidence is there...and is obviously not part of the audio file! :refuck:

quote:
Originally posted by Shawnz
lets see... [ the price of acid soundforge + the fine for the piracy ] * oh around 2 billion equals....
No, they can't just buy soundforge. They will need the right from the company if it is for a developing need...
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by _Humphreys on 11-13-2004 at 08:38 PM

lol it's really funny that they are trying to stop people using p2p's on windows os's and they are making stuff with illegal copies of programs themselevs.:lol:

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by ShawnZ on 11-13-2004 at 08:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
I did a look into Deepz0ne and his software cracking group, a lot has been covered over but from what I got they go around cracking software for others to use (like you'd expect) but they are one of the big players...
But why would M$ use warez? They could easily get the company to let them use their software with good ol' cash...or find an alternative. However the evidence is there...and is obviously not part of the audio file! :refuck:
quote:
Originally posted by Shawnz
lets see... [ the price of acid soundforge + the fine for the piracy ] * oh around 2 billion equals....
No, they can't just buy soundforge. They will need the right from the company if it is for a developing need...

no thats the fine they would have to pay
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by Anubis on 11-13-2004 at 09:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Attitude Extreme

it's really funny that they are trying to stop people using p2p's on windows os's
Yeah, if this is proven true I think M$ will sweep the TCPA idea under the rug...
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by KeyStorm on 11-13-2004 at 09:04 PM

Hm... Been thinking, but nah... they can't defend themselves with "Used for educational purposes" :refuck:

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by _Humphreys on 11-13-2004 at 09:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by : Keystorm :

Hm... Been thinking, but nah... they can't defend themselves with "Used for educational purposes"

lol don't be so sure you don't know how stupid M$ can be.
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by Maniac on 11-13-2004 at 10:13 PM

I hope microsoft pays a lot for this.... just cause it would be funny :p

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by WDZ on 11-13-2004 at 10:17 PM

:dodgy: program putting the identity of the registered user in the audio files it produces... :dodgy:

* WDZ slaps the idiot Microsoft employee who made those files around a bit with a large trout.

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by _Humphreys on 11-13-2004 at 10:20 PM

quote:
* WDZ slaps the idiot Microsoft employee who made those files around a bit with a large trout.
lol he must of been a WDZ2 j/k.
:lol:
I bet Microsoft gets sued alot for this and I am glad stupid M$.
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by Omar on 11-13-2004 at 11:08 PM

heh...

well, i think this is the fault of a stupid MS employee, I dont think MS' policy is to use pirated software....

whats going to happen is that MS will pay money to the company that is developing soundforge...and thats it...thats what BIG companies do... :P

And kiddies....using "M$" doesnt make you look cool.... since i bet all of you would love to have a job in Microsoft after college... :refuck:

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by bach_m on 11-14-2004 at 12:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Omar
i bet all of you would love to have a job in Microsoft after college...


Oh ya! all the muntain Dew i can drink!

</sarcasm>


I'd take a job in Cupertino over one in Redmond any day

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by surfichris on 11-14-2004 at 12:23 AM

I'd just like to point out that Microsoft outsource alot of there work like that to other companies. As the sounds are just loops they could have easily purchased them through a stock sound exchange website and bought the licensing rights to them - or they could have contacted another company to do them then once again bought the rights to them.

Therefore, meaning it would be the responsibility of the company which the work was sourced to, or the company they bought them off.

The same applies for all of the photography on the Microsoft site, its all done by photographers and Microsoft buys them as "stock" images.

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by The One on 11-14-2004 at 03:30 AM

Or they could just say that the employee made them on a personal computer at home.... for what I know, as much as they may hate it, they can't control what their employees do at home :P

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by CookieRevised on 11-14-2004 at 01:56 PM

What's wrong in using SoundForge, a professional program, to make some sounds/loops and then distribute them into another software packet???? Nothing, this is perfectly normal and legal...

As for the nick Deepz0ne, it is true that he was the founder (together with Sandor) of a warezgroup named Radium, specialized in cracking musicsoftware.

But, as you know nicks aren't something unique though, so this can be quite a (dodgy) coincidence. Of course, all the MS haters jump directly to the "warez-conclussion" anyways....

Was there an illegal version being used by a stupid, dodgy Microsoft employee (note: "employee", thus not Microsoft Company!)? Maybe, or it could be that the makers of WMP bought a loop from another company which used an illegal cracked version, just like Chris explained:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
I'd just like to point out that Microsoft outsource alot of there work like that to other companies. As the sounds are just loops they could have easily purchased them through a stock sound exchange website and bought the licensing rights to them - or they could have contacted another company to do them then once again bought the rights to them.

Also, there are some other possebilities. As said, a nick isn't something unique, and some of the employee's could've used this nick for "fun" to register SoundForge and forgotten about it.

Or, as pointed out on the original German forum, it could also be a kind of (dodgy) easteregg from the makers of WMP. MS is know to put such (dodgy) things in their files and programs (remember the blank BSOD screen when you put about:Mozilla in MSIE?).


Anyways, this news has already reached MS for sure, so wait for what they might say instead of jumping to conclussion and generalizations like "See, I always new M$ sucked and did illegal and dodgy stuff, they should be sued like hell"....


Note that these things (if it was an illegal practice by an employee) also happens in other companies, Microsoft is certainly not the only company! But of course, everything bad related to MS reaches the whole world in an instant....
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by _Humphreys on 11-14-2004 at 02:13 PM

Yes Microsoft make good os's and programs but for some reason me and other people don't like them maybe as they are one of the most richest companies in the world and we don't like Bill either.

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by Anubis on 11-14-2004 at 02:23 PM

I've noticed that a lot of dumb people just hate Microsoft because they think it's just "cool" to hate it...You'll find that it's the dumber people that just hate it...and their OSs are good, however they aren't up to military standards, yet...

RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by Choli on 11-14-2004 at 03:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
No, they can't just buy soundforge. They will need the right from the company if it is for a developing need...
I don't think so. By just buying the software you can distribute the files it produces. (it's like if you'd have to pay some extra money to distribute the programs made with Visual Studio.)
quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
program putting the identity of the registered user in the audio files it produces...
that's a field of additional information in wav files. you can choose to fill it or not (using SoundForge or any other sound editor tool)
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
and some of the employee's could've used this nick for "fun" to register SoundForge and forgotten about it.
in that case the employee is still idiot because he should have registered it using Microsoft as name/nick, not Deepz0ne.
quote:
Originally posted by The One
Or they could just say that the employee made them on a personal computer at home....
in that case, the employee should work with legal programs (ie: not cracked). IMO, if an employee wants to work @ home, M$ should provide him the needed tools to work in the same way s/he would do in the company.
RE: Warezed SoundForge files in Windows Media Player by ShunterAlhena on 11-14-2004 at 09:11 PM

erm just one thing for all those cool "M$" guys...
What OS do you use boys? and err how much have you paid for it?
Start whining once you have actually bought the stuff you call crap!
For hating Bill Gates: this thing is called "sour grapes"...
(Btw before you ask: yes, I legally own all Microsoft software on my computer. Yes, I did and will do work for MS, despite my age. Now call me a "M$ sucker", "Bill's puppet" etc. Who cares about you :grin:)

Edit:
I noticed that the above text had nothing to do with the thread. To avoid being called a spammer let me express my opinion in case it's not already clear. Some fool made a mistake. I'm pretty sure the company won't collapse because all this. The guy will probably have a chat with his boss, his boss with SoundForge and matters settled. Or something like that.