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Basic computer needs.. by xpirdwingz on 04-05-2005 at 01:17 PM

Hey,
  I figured I'd rather ask here than search, cos I get better answers here :) (sometimes, if any, heh). What does a simple computer require? Like in memory and stuff.
Can you also use Excel in any version of Windows?

~Thanks in advance~


RE: Basic computer needs.. by .Roy on 04-05-2005 at 01:21 PM

what are u planning to use on the comp?

i would probobly get a computer with

2.4 Ghz
512 Ram
Intel Pentium 4

Those are good over all for a computer


RE: Basic computer needs.. by Anubis on 04-05-2005 at 01:44 PM

The computers specs always depend on what you want to use it for...
However if you want a really simple computer that is only going to be used for work and no game playing, these ruff specs will do...

Please note these are just specs only if you want a very cheap computer that is only going to be used for working on documents and excel ect. with no game playing

500mhz-1ghz processor (lower will do, but this is the best range, also it may be wise to consider a Celeron processor since they are designed for this kind of use)

128-356mb of SDR RAM (or 128 of DDR RAM)

8-40gb Hard Drive (this really depends on how much you're going to put on your computer, if it's just Office and a load of work you can get away with 8, if you're going to play music or videos go up from here).

Graphics card - 8mb-16mb (again, very low, but if you're not going to do any games playing and only work, it's good)

CD\DVD Drives - If you're using it for work, then a CD-RW drive can be useful for storing work. But you may prefer to invest in a USB Memory Key
USB Drives - 2 will do, if you're not planning to buy a ton of gadgets like Digital Camera and Joysticks (get more for more gadgets)

Inbuilt Modem - Nearly all computers come with them now, few come with ADSL or Cabel ones though, but an inbuilt dial up modem is good for a 56k dial up connection.

I'd also advise you get Windows XP, so that at least the work tools you get are compatable (but run it in a very low grapics mode)

quote:
Originally posted by xpirdwingz
Can you also use Excel in any version of Windows?
Interesting question. Look on the back of the box or on the Microsoft website for more details.
There are many versions of Excel over the years. The early office packages should work on any of the newer Windows systems (95+) but the more newer ones (Office XP) aren't made with Windows 95 in mind and certainly won't work on 3.1 and lower...but they may work with bugs on 95...
RE: Basic computer needs.. by user35870 on 04-05-2005 at 01:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Originally posted by xpirdwingz

Can you also use Excel in any version of Windows?

well i have office 2000 and it works fine with windows xp home
RE: Basic computer needs.. by .Roy on 04-05-2005 at 01:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Anubis
The computers specs always depend on what you want to use it for...
However if you want a really simple computer that is only going to be used for work and no game playing, these ruff specs will do...
(Please note these are just specs if you want a very cheap computer that is only going to be used for working on documents and excel ect.)

500mhz-1ghz processor (lower will do, but this is the best range, also it may be wise to consider a Celeron processor since they are designed for this kind of use)
128-356mb of SDR RAM (or 128 of DDR RAM)
8-40gb Hard Drive (this really depends on how much you're going to put on your computer, if it's just Office and a load of work you can get away with 8, if you're going to play music or videos go up from here).
Graphics card - 8mb-16mb (again, very low, but if you're not going to do any games playing and only work, it's good)
CD\DVD Drives - If you're using it for work, then a CD-RW drive can be useful for storing work. But you may prefer to invest in a USB Memory Key
USB Drives - 2 will do, if you're not planning to buy a ton of gadgets like Digital Camera and Joysticks (get more for more gadgets)
Inbuilt Modem - Nearly all computers come with them now, few come with ADSL or Cabel ones though, but an inbuilt dial up modem is good for a 56k dial up connection.

quote:
Originally posted by xpirdwingz
Can you also use Excel in any version of Windows?
Interesting question. Look on the back of the box or on the Microsoft website for more details.
There are many versions of Excel over the years. The early office packages should work on any of the newer Windows systems (95+) but the more newer ones (Office XP) aren't made with Windows 95 in mind and certainly won't work on 3.1 and lower...but they may work with bugs on 95...

I dought she means THAT simple of a pc. She probobly wants to play some computer games. Who doesnt play. Also to watch stuff like episodes from the internet. And i dought u can still buy those kind of computers

500 mhz is NOT enough.

RE: Basic computer needs.. by user35870 on 04-05-2005 at 02:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
And i dought u can still buy those kind of computers

you can get them build to be the spec you want.

RE: Basic computer needs.. by Savior on 04-05-2005 at 02:36 PM

You can probably get away with a P4 1ghz processor, 512mb ram, video card, sound card and ethernet card.  For most of today's computing that's all you really need unless you will become a huge gamer then you need a top of the line.  Also if money is a concideration  then you have to look at that as well.


RE: Basic computer needs.. by Hank on 04-05-2005 at 02:40 PM

at the Minimum ur gonna need atleast a 2500+Cpu or a intel 2.6 or more with atleast 512MB ram, 128MB Vid card an a decent size HDD


RE: Basic computer needs.. by user27089 on 04-05-2005 at 02:44 PM

I wouldn't go for an intel, if you want better performance, go for a:

AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (2.6GHz)
512Mb - 1Gb RAM

that would be a bitch of a computer, and will do all of your basic needs...

Get an ATi Radeon 256Mb Graphics Card...


RE: Basic computer needs.. by Stigmata on 04-05-2005 at 02:51 PM

get linux
then get open office and you can use excel spreadsheets on it!

reason :
not having to pay for windows
not having to pay for office



RE: Basic computer needs.. by mad_onion on 04-05-2005 at 03:12 PM

lol she isnt going to use linux she isnt crazy!! but you could get open office for windows anyway then you wont have to pay for it.
in answer to your question it depends what you want it for but basic. just a Pentium 4 2Ghz/Athlon XP 2000 (Athlon is loads cheaper and better IMO but some people only trust Intel because they are stupid) 512 ram 40gb HD Ati


RE: Basic computer needs.. by Anubis on 04-05-2005 at 04:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Demz

at the Minimum ur gonna need atleast a 2500+Cpu or a intel 2.6 or more with atleast 512MB ram, 128MB Vid card an a decent size HDD
2500+ Minimum, she wants a simple computer!...It may be just a secondary computer in a study or bedroom for work, which means it isn't going to get used for heavy resource hogging stuff!

quote:
Originally posted by traxor

AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (2.6GHz)
512Mb - 1Gb RAM

that would be a bitch of a computer, and will do all of your basic needs...

Yeah, it would...but really, it depends on what she's going to use it for...

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
500 mhz is NOT enough.
I have Windows XP and office running on a 500mhz computer, it's a secondary computer that is used quite a bit for things like work, programming and just to use MSN and browse the internet, in private (and no not for pr0n, it has a filtered connection :p). For those needs it works fine, just a little slow to start up...I just beefed it up with a bit of RAM a few years ago, that gives it a cheap boost.

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
She probobly wants to play some computer games. Who doesnt play
Workstations at Schools and Workplaces don't need to be played on, so why would she need to if it is a very simple computer she wants?

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
Also to watch stuff like episodes from the internet.
Like downloaded TV shows or DVDs. Ok it is best to consider that, but with these things it's more a matter of if you actually close all the unneeded applications they work fine on older PCs, but you may need to get a DVD Reader\CD-RW for DVDs and a CD-RW because it is useful. Get a 16mb graphics card to render images more accurately and install a resource friendly media player and the codecs, then it'll work fine on a low-spec PC...

quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes
And i dought u can still buy those kind of computers
I think people have forgotten the art of hanging around car boot sales, you can pick them up there cheaply and they still do the basics...Or Build it as chris100 said. Or even go on eBay.

As for going Linux, it has it's up and downs.
You can get a resource friendly version, which is good on lower-spec computers.
However some people find that just putting on Windows is quicker, and you can always make sure that you have the right software to run Office properly, as many people like to.

Xpirdwingz, would you mind telling us what you're going to use the computer for (in as much detail as possible)? That way we can tell you exactly what the specifications you will be able to get away with minimum. Cheers
RE: Basic computer needs.. by xpirdwingz on 04-05-2005 at 07:08 PM

Thanks everyone! Didn't expect to get such a great response :) It's not for a computer I want to buy, its just something I wanted to know for my i.c.t. class. I'm writing a user guide and wanted to know the basic requirements that a user should have to use the application i made in excel.
No need to go into the detail, I think the answers you gave are plentiful. Just enough to be able to use Excel and maybe the internet is fine, and whatever other basic things.
Oh, I've heard of LINUX, but you're right, I don't need that, lol, but I am crazy, hehe :P


RE: Basic computer needs.. by ShawnZ on 04-05-2005 at 09:33 PM

Here are some good specs for a low end pc, that is sure to play basic games, and some more advanced ones aswell. I have somthing near these specs and I am able to play nearly every game. It costed around $500 dollars (with software included).

  • Processor Intel Pentium 4 with a lower end clock speed, such as 2.0GHZ to 2.4GHZ
  • Memory 128MB DDR RAM Is acceptable. 512MB or higher is probably way higher then what you need, but i highly suggest pushing for 256MB.
  • Graphics Card NVidia GeForce or ATI Radeon. Make sure the card you get is AGP based. Even the lower makes of those models i suggested will work fine on most games, but not all of them work on new games.
  • Sound Card Settle with a basic sound card. Unless you want surround sound, an onboard sound card will get you just as good sound quality as any other.
  • Operating System If you are looking for cheap, get Windows 2000 edition. However i highly recommend you get Windows XP Home Edition at minimum. If you can, borrow professional edition off a friend, because the professional edition serial codes can be used multiple times.

If you want a higher end system that is able to play any game, and is extremly fast, try the specs below. They will suit anyone perfectly but can get rather expensive.
  • Processor Intel Pentium 4 with a clock speed of at least 2.6GHZ. I highly suggest Hyper Threading. Also try to go for the Extreme Edition as well, as long as you get a good coolant system such as a pure copper heatsink or a water coolant system.
  • Memory 512MB DDR RAM will do nicely, but you could probably get up to 2GB for bigger games.
  • Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 6800 or higher. Dual GPU and TNL support is a must. Cards that require external power (look for a white plastic port on the backside of the card) are usually higher clock and better preformance cards.
  • Sound Card Creative brand cards with surround sound and dolby digital support.
  • Operating System At least Windows XP Professional. You could also upgrade to Windows 2003 edition.

RE: Basic computer needs.. by albert on 04-05-2005 at 09:57 PM

i personally belive a 512 MB with about 2.4 GHZ and a AMD Athlon Xp is a good buy, but if you want my adive buy a media center pc.. those are cool :) and you can actully buy a Pentium 4 but i think thats a waste of money, not rlly seing the difference between pentium and amd ..


RE: Basic computer needs.. by Pyroteq on 04-06-2005 at 05:59 AM

For a real basic computer (No high end games)
I would go for:

All in one motherboard     (You all forgot that..And its better than buying PCI Cards like your talking about, because they become expensive)

At least a 40gb Hard Drive
At least 512mb RAM Although you could use 128 if you really need to save money
A decent processor (Id go for a Celeron D)
A CD Drive
A Floppy Drive (If needed)

OS: Whatever you need, Newest would be best but if your comfortable with 2000 and whatnot you could use that

As for your Excel Question.. Look on the box.. System specs :p


RE: Basic computer needs.. by Chestah on 04-06-2005 at 06:04 AM

I have to agree with Anubis, a 500mhz computer is great for just using excel and doing basic tasks like homework on. As for Excel running on all versions of windows - Office 2003 requires windows xp so if your going to use that you will have to use Windows Xp.
On a 500mhz system Xp will run fairly well with 256meg of ram, or you could just install windows 98 and everything will be really fast :).

A computer like this would be very very cheap and affordable :) and thats the main thing


RE: Basic computer needs.. by Anubis on 04-06-2005 at 12:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by xpirdwingz
Just enough to be able to use Excel and maybe the internet is fine, and whatever other basic things.
MS give this infomation...We had to do something very similar in my IT class, and I just copied and pasted the data over.
Office Standard Edition 2003: System Requirements

To all the people who are saying to go for 2ghz processors and above please could you actually read the posts! She wants a very low spec computer to just run Office
RE: Basic computer needs.. by xpirdwingz on 04-06-2005 at 05:34 PM

Hehe, thanks again :D. Plenty of information for my user guide. You're all so great :) hehe. I can do more work in IT class now! I only wrote a few lines last lesson, I didn't know what to write.