So, that's it. A simple chat about IT market!

I'm a system developer, and i'm working on an American company (DuPont), in a brazilian plant ... here we have a lot of system programmers, IT personel, DBA, developers...

I'm curious about the opportunities in other countries, and i want to know how the market works in these countries (Like European Countries, or Australia, China, Russia, Mexico, Japan, etc)!

I'm inviting you to talk about your country, how to get a job, what type of jobs can be found there, how much the companies pay per hour (or month) of work, etc.

And I can start talking about Brazil. Here the market is growing up, but not much fast.
A lot of universities are teaching courses about IT and Software development, here we call "Technical Courses". These courses promisses to form a system engeneer, programmer, analyst and database administrator in 2 years. But in fact, the course do not teach well, or the major people just join the course because believe that will give a lot of money in the future, pure illusion.

The best professionals earn a cool money, but the fair professionals don't.

Here, a hour of a Specilist in VB6 earn about R$ 20,00 (Brazilian Money), equivalent to US$ 8,00. In .NET the value is a bit great: US$ 10,00. A Database administrator earn about US$ 9,00. This values can be different, depending the company.

If i remember a new info, i'll post soon.
Bye!

Well,

Over in the United Kingdom (I personally live in England), there are lots of opportunities in IT Management etc. and the pay is quite sufficient, probably around £6 - £10 per hour at a normal job, at todays rates, this is probably around $12 - $20... So yes, the pay over here is quite good.

We have a good steady economy aswell, and we show no signs of moving to the €uro, so we're quite safe right now...

//traxor

Here you can get any type of job, or even better, start your own company, seing our country has some IT Companys for some things(like hosting, web designing and w/e) but, being a foreign with experience and a good marketing prespective you could get the market in no time...

As for normal jobs, i have no idea on how much you'll get paid..

Average wages for the UK IT sector...

Analyst Prog/Dev    £37,695 pa   
Bus/Systems Analyst    £41,956 pa   
Consultant    £49,461 pa   
Database Administrator    £29,361 pa   
Database Developer    £34,921 pa   
Datacoms Engineer    £39,244 pa   
Desktop Support    £28,675 pa   
Helpdesk    £21,762 pa   
IT Sales    £38,780 pa   
IT/Systems Manager    £50,189 pa   
Marketing    £33,705 pa   
Network Security    £46,324 pa   
Project Manager    £53,533 pa   
Quality Assurance    £39,396 pa   
Software Developer    £37,939 pa   
Software Engineer    £37,224 pa   
Systems Testing    £40,737 pa   
Systems/Network Admin    £33,621 pa   
Technical Author    £33,526 pa   
Technical Trainer    £32,053 pa   
Telecoms Engineer    £35,626 pa

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Originally posted by traxor
we show no signs of moving to the €uro, so we're quite safe right now...

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wow someone who wants the euro. everyone in my area (south london) hates it. sometimes i get the feeling im the only person who isnt xenophobic in the whole country. the euro will be a great thing but we will only go over when our economy is bad cause we wont have any other choice, but that wont happen till the tories get in which wont be for 5 years at least.

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Originally posted by saralk
Project Manager    £53,533 pa

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Originally posted by mad_onion
wow someone who wants the euro. everyone in my area (south london) hates it. sometimes i get the feeling im the only person who isnt xenophobic in the whole country. the euro will be a great thing but we will only go over when our economy is bad cause we wont have any other choice, but that wont happen till the tories get in which wont be for 5 years at least.

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Wow man!
Great wages in UK!
So, if i understand well, they pay about £37,69 per Hour to a Analyst/Developer, and £1 = US$2, it's correct ?

Here in Brazil, very few people earn this wages...

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Originally posted by Shadow Brujah
So, if i understand well, they pay about £37,69 per Hour to a Analyst/Developer

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Originally posted by monster.rat

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Originally posted by Shadow Brujah
So, if i understand well, they pay about £37,69 per Hour to a Analyst/Developer

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No, you misunderstood. That would be sooo much money. £37,695 pa means £37,695 per annum or per year.

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And how about the life cost in your country?

We cannot talk about wages without talk about life cost.

In Japan, people earn a lot of money... like US$ 300 per day, but if you want to drink a Coke, it costs about US$ 50 (2 litters) !!!

How is the prices of the thinks in your country? How much costs a small house rental, a popular car, a nice motorcycle,  lunch in a good restaurant, one beer, one litter of gas or diesel, a bus ticket, etc?

I can give some of those prices in pound sterling:
Medium-sized family car ~ £15,000
Decent bike - probably around £10,000
Beer - £2 a pint
Petrol - 80p/l (varies across the country from 70p to 90p)
Diesel - slightly more than petrol
Bus ticket - anything from 50p to £5, unless you're going cross-country

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Originally posted by Shadow Brujah

And how about the life cost in your country?

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Originally posted by Johny
1 € per coffee

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Originally posted by paperless



1€? are you mad? its like 0.70 or something € here.
Shoes +price vary a lot.. it really depends on many things.
Sweat shirts too.

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A thing i've noted: The prices of major stuff in Europe is near than prices here in Brazil. But we here earn much less money than people who lives in European Contries.

An coffe here costs about R$1,50, US$ 0.60, € 0.45 or £ 0,67.
Like a Medium-sized family car (Volkswagen Golf for example): R$ 40,000, US$ 16,000, € 12,000 or £15,600

imports will usually cost the same amount wherever you are, but a good measure of the cost of living is looking at interest rates, and the price of locally made goods.

Volkswagen Golf and Coffe are a made here!
We have here a lot of car-assembly industries, and we have our own version of major European cars!

Bye