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modaration for deleted threads by -dt- on 06-12-2005 at 08:25 AM
I'm proposing the idea of if a thread has more than 2 replys then if the user deletest the thread it gets removed but an admin gets the choice of wether to permanate delete it or not to have it deleted.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by Veggie on 06-12-2005 at 08:28 AM
or prehaps the thread get moved to a recycle bin forum, where noone can post new threads
RE: modaration for deleted threads by -dt- on 06-12-2005 at 08:31 AM
quote:thats basicly what i was saying , though only mods can see it and can choose to "resurrect" that thread
Originally posted by Veggie
or prehaps the thread get moved to a recycle bin forum, where noone can post new threads
RE: modaration for deleted threads by Nathan on 06-12-2005 at 08:32 AM
I liike the idea of the reycycle bin because then admins and mods wouldnt be spammed with deleted threads if you see what i mean 
RE: modaration for deleted threads by M73A on 06-12-2005 at 08:32 AM
i like the idea. i trhink it would be good if everyone could see the recycle bin. but the link is like you have to type shoutbox.menthix.net/recycle.php to access it so not to have a bin on the main page...
but only mods should be able to resurrect obv 
RE: modaration for deleted threads by sn1p3r on 06-12-2005 at 08:37 AM
It's actually a pretty cool idea as people who are new to the forums could find previously posted topics in the 'recycle bin' which may help them out with problems, rather then creating new threads.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by Nathan on 06-12-2005 at 08:37 AM
Yer or there could be a reycycle bin and like windows you drag the thread into the reycycle bin and it deletes it 
RE: modaration for deleted threads by surfichris on 06-12-2005 at 08:39 AM
I'd like to see the recycle bin thing added here, for normal members when deleting their threads (maybe posts too?) or just disallow them to delete threads?
RE: modaration for deleted threads by Nathan on 06-12-2005 at 08:40 AM
Kool we've got a admin on our side 
RE: modaration for deleted threads by saralk on 06-12-2005 at 09:07 AM
ive suggested this twice before , and I still think it is a good idea.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by John Anderton on 06-12-2005 at 09:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
I'd like to see the recycle bin thing added here, for normal members when deleting their threads
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
(maybe posts too?)
or mabbe not its ..... neither yes neither no for me quote:
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
or just disallow them to delete threads?
Well thats just my opinion. Or we could keep it like if u delete a thread with more than 2 replies then it goes to a recycle bin where only a mod (obviously an admin too
) can see and resurrect it
RE: modaration for deleted threads by Chrono on 06-12-2005 at 09:50 AM
bleh, if the original poster wants to delete the thread, he has the right to do it. i think it would be a bit unfair if a moderator could put the thread back... because the original poster must have had his reasons to delete it, even if not everyone like these reasons 
RE: modaration for deleted threads by CookieRevised on 06-12-2005 at 09:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
I'm proposing the idea of if a thread has more than 2 replys then if the user deletest the thread it gets removed but an admin gets the choice of wether to permanate delete it or not to have it deleted.
quote:mods aren't "spammed" with deleted threads; When someone deletes his own thread, nothing is send to the report system...
Originally posted by msg_plus_freak
I liike the idea of the reycycle bin because then admins and mods wouldnt be spammed with deleted threads if you see what i mean
quote:
Originally posted by may73alliance
i like the idea. i trhink it would be good if everyone could see the recycle bin. but the link is like you have to type shoutbox.menthix.net/recycle.php to access it so not to have a bin on the main page...
The whole purpose of removing a thread is so nobody can see it anymore.quote:
Originally posted by sn1p3r
It's actually a pretty cool idea as people who are new to the forums could find previously posted topics in the 'recycle bin' which may help them out with problems, rather then creating new threads.
That will defeat the whole purpose of a forum and how it works. Use the search function if you want to find previous posts.quote:
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
or just disallow them to delete threads?
eventhough I understand why it would be dissallowed; but with a moderated recycle system (only accesseble for mods), those problems can be fixed...
RE: modaration for deleted threads by Millenium_edition on 06-12-2005 at 10:57 AM
quote:why not add a reason field, like in the report window, to delete this thread?
Originally posted by Chrono
bleh, if the original poster wants to delete the thread, he has the right to do it. i think it would be a bit unfair if a moderator could put the thread back... because the original poster must have had his reasons to delete it, even if not everyone like these reasons
so:
- i have my thread, i want to delete it
- i give a reason and the thread is not deleted yet, but put on moderator watch
- a mod judges if that's a fair reason or not and deletes it or not
RE: modaration for deleted threads by Anubis on 06-12-2005 at 04:51 PM
The original scheme wouldn't work; I can see this happening;
User deletes thread > Moderator restores it > User deletes it again > Moderator restores it > User deletes it > Moderator bans the user for 24 hours and restores the thread.
Allowing users to delete their threads is a bad idea, always has been. M_E's idea of disabling the ability of users to delete threads, and just reporting it to a member of staff is a good idea.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by L. Coyote on 06-12-2005 at 06:36 PM
I like the moderated recycle bin idea.
I've been to forums where thread deletion was not allowed and it sucked. I particulary like this one because you're free to delete posts and threads.
Besides, if you post in the wrong forum and realize before any mod can see it, you delete the thread and post it in the correct forum (this has happened many times, I remember).
IMO, users should still be able to delete their threads, but put on a moderated, private forum. BEFORE A MOD CAN MOVE IT BACK, he/she should ask the thread starter WHY he/she removed the thread. If the reason is something dumb and the thread is useful, the mod can move it back.
It doesn't mean all threads will get to be moved back. And the recycle bin should be like T&T, where threads get deleted after a period of time.
Just my .02$
RE: modaration for deleted threads by jren207 on 06-12-2005 at 11:46 PM
It sounds like a good idea, because sometimes good information might be inside a thread and could be useful for others who want that information so that they can be refered to it instead of making endless threads about the same thing.
The author of the thread might not notice this information and delete the thread carelessly whereas if it was in a recycling/temp place, then an admin/mod could sift through it to check for useful information.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by paperless on 06-12-2005 at 11:47 PM
I dont agree with this, it will cause the admins to get overworked for no reason...
If one user created it, he has the right to do it no matter if others posted in it. Not lettng the user delete it is in a 0-10 scale privacy invasion, 2, IMO .
RE: modaration for deleted threads by CookieRevised on 06-12-2005 at 11:59 PM
quote:indeed. I have come across such cases in the past and it is very regretfully that such threads couldn't be revived; whole posts of very usefully info were getting lost that way. I don't say it happens often, but it does happen...
Originally posted by jren207
The author of the thread might not notice this information and delete the thread carelessly whereas if it was in a recycling/temp place, then an admin/mod could sift through it to check for useful information.
quote:Threads aren't deleted that often by users...
Originally posted by paperless
I dont agree with this, it will cause the admins to get overworked for no reason...
quote:Dunno what you exactly mean by that, but there is no privacy invasion at all in any case... If the user isn't permitted to delete a post or a thread, or threads can be revived for good reasons then it is all to do with how the forum works, and thus with forum rules and users agreeing upon it. Not liking, not visiting or posting... easy...
Originally posted by paperless
If one user created it, he has the right to do it no matter if others posted in it. Not lettng the user delete it is in a 0-10 scale privacy invasion, 2, IMO
RE: modaration for deleted threads by shine on 06-13-2005 at 12:27 AM
This Idea was rejected a long ago by WDZ.. although majority of us was in favour or this, ultimately it was the posters 'choice' that pervailed. If you think about it thats right too...
* shine remembers it was Karma's 
post 
Also in most cases, the thread would lose its significance even if we retain the replies without the original post.
I guess its a tough job to write a patch for it... 
RE: modaration for deleted threads by surfichris on 06-13-2005 at 12:28 AM
Well, I've posted the code changes that need to be made in the Staff forum so let's see what happens now..
RE: modaration for deleted threads by paperless on 06-13-2005 at 12:33 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
but there is no privacy invasion at all in any case
If the user chose not to let other people see it anymore (he changed his mind, per example) , noone should have the right to put it back there thats why i say its a privacy invasion.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by surfichris on 06-13-2005 at 12:42 AM
quote:Actually its more of finding out who started what and what caused it to be deleted in the first place (such as flaming or another member doing something) more than putting the thread back. This stops people from flaming the hell out of someone and getting away with it by just deleting it before forum staff see it.
Originally posted by paperless
If the user chose not to let other people see it anymore (he changed his mind, per example) , noone should have the right to put it back there thats why i say its a privacy invasion.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by shine on 06-13-2005 at 01:11 AM
Good point.. there Chris..Your idea of a recyclebin is agood one ... Regarding privacy, mentioning in terms & conditions will do thw job.
RE: modaration for deleted threads by dylan! on 06-13-2005 at 03:54 AM
IMO i think that they should delete it WITH A REASON andadmins will eaither accept the reason and delete it or decline the reason and it remains on the forum and i also think EVERONE should be able to view the "Recycling Bin Forums" but it would be just like their locked so nobody can reply ...because some threads are informative and some its when people post oin a thread...leave and come back the next day and check on thread and its deleted and nobody knows who replied what to it and stuff and i hate it when that happens and i know other people do to