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by Junior.Spirit on 06-28-2005 at 12:35 PM

i use colornick v2 to change my name in color.but people who don't use msgplus! see my name in ·$6J·$#95158Au·$#AA2A95n·$#BF40A0i·$#D455AAo·$#E96AB5r·$#FF7FC0.·$#E96AB5S·$#D455AAp·$#BF40A0i·$#AA2A95r·$#95158Ai·$6t·0

how to let them see my name correctly without using any tool?

thx


by lordy on 06-28-2005 at 12:39 PM

they have to have messenger plus! installed as well i'm afraid, it is a messenger plus! thing that lets you see colours


by Junior.Spirit on 06-28-2005 at 12:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lordy16
they have to have messenger plus! installed as well i'm afraid, it is a messenger plus! thing that lets you see colours


i see, but this is unicode. does msn msg itself have 'unicode' version?
by CookieRevised on 06-28-2005 at 12:47 PM

That is not unicode at all, nor has it anything to do with it...

Unicode is an extended set of characters. Instead of 255 possible characters, you can have 65535 possible characters. MSN Messenger (as well as Messenger Plus!) is full Unicode compatible. Unicode has got nothing to do with the color codes of Messenger Plus!.

What you see are colorcodes, nothing more. These codes are made by Messenger Plus! itself and only used by Messenger Plus!. They aren't a standard of any type. Patchou (the creator of Messenger Plus!) could well've choosen different codes for all he cares....

Thus only Messenger Plus! can interpret these colorcodes. So unless your contact also has Messenger Plus!, he will see the raw colorcodes...


eg: ·$#BF40A0i

·$ = color starting code, which indicates a color will follow
# = indicator that a RGB color will follow
BF40A0 = the actuall RGB colorcode
    BF = Red component of the color
    40 = Green component of the color
    A0 = Blue component of the color
i = the ascii character which is to be colored...


by Junior.Spirit on 06-28-2005 at 12:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Unicode? no that is not unicode at all...

Unicode is an extended set of characters. Instead of 255 possible characters, you can have 65535 possible characters. MSN Messenger (as well as Messenger Plus!) is full Unicode compatible.

What you see are colorcodes. These codes are made by Messenger Plus! itself and only used by Messenger Plus!. They aren't a standard of any type. Patchou (the creator of Messenger Plus!) could well choosen different codes for all he cares....

Thus only Messenger Plus! can interpret these colorcodes. So unless your contact also has Messenger Plus!, he will see the raw colorcodes...


eg: ·$#BF40A0i

·$ = color starting code, which indicates a color will follow
#BF40A0 = is the actuall RGB colorcode
    BF = Red component of the color
    40 = Green component of the color
    A0 = Blue component of the color
i = the ascii character which is to be colored...


thanks!

if so,i think this feature is not very valuable :(

unless it comes in common forms such as we use special way to insert html code in msn space to make it individual, don't you?
by mwe99 on 06-28-2005 at 01:10 PM

You could just recommend Plus! to your contacts if they complain about your name etc


by Junior.Spirit on 06-28-2005 at 01:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mwe99
You could just recommend Plus! to your contacts if they complain about your name etc


then, all my contacts will use the color nickname like me! :)
by CookieRevised on 06-28-2005 at 01:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Junior.Spirit
thanks!

if so,i think this feature is not very valuable :(

unless it comes in common forms such as we use special way to insert html code in msn space to make it individual, don't you?
What do you mean "common forms"?

The tool you used (colornick) is just a tool which does some stuff with the colors, nothing more. It is a very big misunderstanding that people think you need the tool to have colors. This is totaly wrong. ColorNick is simply a nice and easy way to color up your nickname with fancy colors. Everything that ColorNick does can be done without it also...

Thus, you don't need the tool at all for this in fact... What you have posted in your first screenshot is what your contacts without Messenger Plus! will see. It is not what you need to type in to get the colors!!!

See the official help pages of Messenger Plus! on how to use colors:
http://www.msgplus.net/help_tutorials.php?tut=multi-format-colors

by Junior.Spirit on 06-28-2005 at 01:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by Junior.Spirit
thanks!

if so,i think this feature is not very valuable :(

unless it comes in common forms such as we use special way to insert html code in msn space to make it individual, don't you?
What do you mean "common forms"?

The tool you used (colornick) is just a tool which does some stuff with the colors, nothing more. It is a very big misunderstanding that people think you need the tool to have colors. This is totaly wrong. ColorNick is simply a nice and easy way to color up your nickname with fancy colors. Everything that ColorNick does can be done without it also...

Thus, you don't need the tool at all for this in fact... What you have posted in your first screenshot is what your contacts without Messenger Plus! will see. It is not what you need to type in to get the colors!!!

See the official help pages of Messenger Plus! on how to use colors:
http://www.msgplus.net/help_tutorials.php?tut=multi-format-colors



i know how to use it...

now color nicknames could be easily created. but could not be easily identified.

if it has both. it's valuable i think. this could be 'common forms''s meaning.

i'm very sorry for my poor english. :(
by CookieRevised on 06-28-2005 at 02:06 PM

I still don't understand fully what you mean though :(... color codes are very easy to apply and identify...


by brian on 06-28-2005 at 03:38 PM

I think he meant that it would be better if you could see color names, without having MsgPlus! or so.


by CookieRevised on 06-28-2005 at 03:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Brian
I think he meant that it would be better if you could see color names, without having MsgPlus! or so.
if that's so: it is impossible and nobody can do anything about it, unless Microsoft themselfs implement a way to color your nickname...
by saralk on 06-28-2005 at 04:26 PM

Or maybe he wants a way where people without msgplus don't see the codes


by mwe99 on 06-28-2005 at 04:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
Or maybe he wants a way where people without msgplus don't see the codes

As Cookie said, that isn't possible the colour codes are a thing with MsgPlus! not MSN directly.
by Matti on 06-28-2005 at 05:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by saralk
Or maybe he wants a way where people without msgplus don't see the codes

And for that, those persons will need such a plugin which hides the color codes.
So, they better get :plus2:! ;)
by Junior.Spirit on 06-29-2005 at 10:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by Brian
I think he meant that it would be better if you could see color names, without having MsgPlus! or so.
if that's so: it is impossible and nobody can do anything about it, unless Microsoft themselfs implement a way to color your nickname...


i agree with you. i propaply meant like this.

i give up -_-