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Is it True? by Nathan on 06-29-2005 at 12:16 PM
Hiya,
I've just heard from my mates that limewire was on the Tv and anyone who has got it is charged with £2500!
Is it true or is it a hoax?
RE: Is it True? by saralk on 06-29-2005 at 12:28 PM
no its not, if it was you would find out about it here.
RE: Is it True? by Vazza on 06-29-2005 at 01:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by msg_plus_freak
Hiya,
I've just heard from my mates that limewire was on the Tv and anyone who has got it is charged with £2500!
It would probably be if they were caught downloading from it since I know that they are starting to come down heavily on illegal downloaders
RE: Is it True? by RaceProUK on 06-29-2005 at 02:00 PM
Wasn't there a court case where they decided the P2P program makers are liable for the piracy over their networks?
RE: Is it True? by Vazza on 06-29-2005 at 02:30 PM
I don't know but I know that recently there have been parents who have had to pay for their children's downloading because one of the people featured was some high profile person who got a letter through because of her son's downloading.
RE: Is it True? by mwe99 on 06-29-2005 at 02:54 PM
It also says
'Although the Supreme Court ruling seems to hold file sharing services like Limewire the most accountable, not the people actually sharing the material'
Yet im sure you'd still be prosecuted if they found you 
RE: Is it True? by absorbation on 06-29-2005 at 02:57 PM
hoax, it's hard to get people fined becuase the software is not designed for music but for file sharing it's the shares that may get in trouble but it's hard to get the downloaders unless it's a hell of a lot 
tip: sharing your libary makes you at more risk so make sure you donr share 
RE: Is it True? by Vazza on 06-29-2005 at 02:59 PM
Most definately, because in my opinion you are accountable as well as you are downloading the songs through the use of other means.
RE: Is it True? by Nathan on 06-29-2005 at 05:01 PM
Your right there absorbation. Thats exactly what I do!
I download but dont share
RE: Is it True? by CookieRevised on 06-29-2005 at 05:57 PM
quote:Sharing your "library" often just means that people who search for something can also search your "library" or that it is automatically included in the search.
Originally posted by msg_plus_freak
Your right there absorbation. Thats exactly what I do! I download but dont share
This doesn't mean that people can't download from you! With many P2P programs you still upload stuff and thus share stuff. Not sharing your library simply means "preventing people from seeing your available files directly", they still can be downloaded!...
Oh, and with many P2P programs your IP is send also. And for the authorities is is very easy to track down an IP, all they need to do, if they have sufficient legal reasons, is to give the ISP a call and the ISP must give the location of the IP....
RE: Is it True? by absorbation on 06-29-2005 at 06:11 PM
Yeh i try to keep form being from illegal as possible i try not to become an ultrapeer, and i try to stay hidden as most as i cant. Charging the millions of people who use limewire would make the music industry so rich that it would not matter to sell music, they are just setting examples of people so they stop using them Also it really aimed at people who are mass downloaders
RE: Is it True? by RaceProUK on 06-29-2005 at 06:33 PM
quote:Very true. A lot of people either download a different version of a song they haven't got, or a new song from an album as a sample. They then proceed to buy the album. I know, as I've bought many albums after downloading a song or two. True, initially I broke copyright law, but then paid for guaranteed quality.
Originally posted by Absorbation
Also it really aimed at people who are mass downloaders
If it wasn't for P2P, then I wouldn't have got into rock music the way I have, and several bands would have made a few quid less
RE: Is it True? by Purity on 06-29-2005 at 07:08 PM
quote:just a post i made in mess.be forums.
Originally posted by Saving Purity,May 21 2005, 08:51 PM
Sersiouly people, I know for a god damn fact that downloading AND uploading music in CANADA is NOT illegal, the RIAA(w.e they are called) will not do **** about it. It's not illegal, I watched the news when they ruled that it was LEGAL to upload and download music in Canada.
BUT
Now the federal goverment is signing two treaties to hold the rights of artists and musicians.
2003 NEWS
Edit: It is legal to download music in Canada but is Illegal to upload it
Sources: http://www.techspot.com/story9499.html
http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html?tag=nefd_lede
Edit: 2004 NEWS
EDIT: MORE 2004 NEWS
What i've been looking for.
Source: http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=509
This means that Downloading and Uploading are infact legal in Canada.
I don't like to download music of my favorite bands, because it is non-supportive. But they still get most of the money from tours and merch. Lil comes from the album. I do download music, but not excessivley.
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But thats for canada, the us is like screwed!
And i hope limewire doesn't go down.
I'll still have my shareaza,torrents, and warez p2p but it's just rediculous
The artists say they are losing money on record sales, but the thing is they aren't losing money, at least from me, I wouldn't 'buy' the cd in the first place, they can be so expensive at times.
besides artsist only make 10-15% of the profits.
RE: Is it True? by CookieRevised on 06-29-2005 at 09:51 PM
quote:I'm afraid that this is certainly not true. Most of the money does come from record sales!!!
Originally posted by Purity
But they still get most of the money from tours and merch. Lil comes from the album.
quote:I'm sorry but this kind of argument is the most widespread and used among the youth, and it is also so wrong. Be sure that they do loose money because of it...
Originally posted by Purity
he artists say they are losing money on record sales, but the thing is they aren't losing money
quote:1) Then why download it if you didn't wanted the album
Originally posted by Purity
(...) at least from me, I wouldn't 'buy' the cd in the first place, they can be so expensive at times.
2) The reason why they are expensive isn't only because of profit margins. Illegal sharing/ distributing/ downloading/ whatever is also a big money "spender".
quote:So? What's that suppose to mean? This means that you can illegally purchase anything you like because the copyright owner only gets a small percentage? I would like to know how you would feel about this when you're older and work full time and when they cut your salery by 10% each month because... what's 10% percent, nothing, right?...
Originally posted by Purity
besides artsist only make 10-15% of the profits.
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And I like to add that if you download something from most P2P networks you automatically share/upload stuff also (as I explained before).
RE: Is it True? by Purity on 06-29-2005 at 11:48 PM
quote:I would download the music because I liked it and it's free, I often feel bad for downloading music, But I still payed the price for all of hte songs i have with posters dvds etc, I don't like to download dvds onto my computer, Takes too much time. Sometimes not worth it.
Originally posted by CookieRevised
1) Then why download it if you didn't wanted the album
2) The reason why they are expensive isn't only because of profit margins. Illegal sharing/ distributing/ downloading/ whatever is also a big money "spender".
I can see that they are expensive because of that but if they were cheeper people wouldn't have to download so much.
There will always be pirating of music and software.
RE: Is it True? by Pipish on 06-29-2005 at 11:53 PM
i'm not going to say anything cause you never know whos watching this htread 
but i tend to download smaller known p2p networks they do the job and have no pron in your search results
RE: Is it True? by paperless on 06-30-2005 at 12:52 AM
quote:You can use the term "buy"
Originally posted by Pipish
i'm not going to say anything cause you never know whos watching this htread
RE: RE: Is it True? by CookieRevised on 06-30-2005 at 02:13 AM
quote:No you didn't... you payed for the posters and dvd's, not for the songs/cd's!
Originally posted by Purity
I would download the music because I liked it and it's free, I often feel bad for downloading music, But I still payed the price for all of hte songs i have with posters dvds etc
Try that argument in a store and you'll be kicked out...
quote:ermmm... right...
Originally posted by Purity
I can see that they are expensive because of that but if they were cheeper people wouldn't have to download so much.
One of the reasons that they are expensive is because people pirate them. Not the other way around! The prices will go down a bit if people stopped pirating stuff, they aren't going down just for the sake of it and so people wont have to download it anymore...
quote:true
Originally posted by Purity
There will always be pirating of music and software.
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I'm not going to rant to everyone not to download illegal stuff and not to pirate stuff. But please don't use false or twisted arguments or wrong rumours to justify your doings...
RE: Is it True? by SikStyles on 06-30-2005 at 03:36 AM
so what are the chances of u gettin caught? i buy CD's when i have money and i do it to respect the artist whoever made the album because they put dedication and their time in it..and i hate when ppl work and dont get money for what they made..but yes i confess i've downloaded music but for the lack of money thats all
RE: Is it True? by brian on 06-30-2005 at 03:38 AM
Well for me, and you may not believe me, but I do buy after I download it.. Take CS: Source as an example, I liked the game, but at once, I though, if people kept on using cracked versions, never we are going to have better games from that company, so I bought it, and if where-ever Firefox goes for money, I would pay for it, becuase it deserves it.
RE: Is it True? by ShawnZ on 06-30-2005 at 03:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by saralk
no its not, if it was you would find out about it here.
quote:
US music industry sues 784 users of Kazaa, Grokster, LimeWire
Forbes - 2 hours ago
RE: Is it True? by brian on 06-30-2005 at 03:46 AM
I wonder what are they going to do with them.