Right heres the deal, i put my iPod in my computer and comes up wit iTunes, sound (not mirrored, so i have no trax on my comp and all of em on my iPod, any trax i do have, goes on the iPod, and then get deleted.) so i recently reset the lot so im building it up and i add around 60 songs at a time, and over the USB wire.

it only added around 40 of the songs, so i tried it again. appuntly it worked the 2nd time so i press eject on iTunes for the iPod but wen it went off the screen it still had the message do not dissconnect on the iPod. so i went to saftly disconnect hardware. same problem there. comp didnt read it, but the iPod was still frozen. so i dissconnect it by wire and reset it.

no music was there so i put it back in the com and open it up in iTunes to start again afta shouting fuck a few times. but heres the really weird bit, all them songs wer back on the iPod wen i plugged it in (except for those 20 i cant add ) so i discconect it again (and have to go through the whole safley remove hardware and that) but wwen i reset it this time the music was back on the iPod, ready to be played.

This has happened about 3 times now with trying to add those 20 songs. The iPod is a 20GB, black and white with scroll wheel and has the latest software on the iPod and the newest iTunes.

sorry to sound dumb.... but WTF?

EDIT: Ive just found out those 40 trax dont play propley on my iPod too, but they work sound on my comp as do others now that i ws listening to today

Try using iPod updater to completely reset the iPod, then reinstall iTunes and try again.

i did that yesterday, as a simular problem was happenin. im really am stumped.

Thanks lizard.boy for pointing this out. I was busy programming the iPod Software (New GUI is coming...)

Anyways back to the actual problem(s) your having. When the iPod doesn't properly unmount through iTunes after an update it is because of a feature called Enable Disk Use.

If you go to Edit > Preferences > iPod > General > Uncheck "Enable Disk Use" this will allow unmounting of the iPod after an automatic update.

Disk Use Fact: Disk Use is ment to allow dragging and dropping of songs from Windows Explorer to the iPod directly without those songs actually being imported to iTunes. Example if you have an MP3 cd you can drag the contents of CD to the iPod in your source list and have it update the songs for you. This option is default to On and cannot be changed in Manual Update but can be changed in Automatic Update.

Disk Use Fiction: Although many people think that the "Enable Disk Use" feature enables "Disk Mode" on your iPod they are infact two totally different features. Disk Mode enables the use of the iPods HDD as a removable mass storage device while Disk Use is used for updating music through Windows Explorer.

Now I read that you transfered songs to your iPod but they do not play correctly if this is correct its probably leading up to your hard drive failing on your iPod. I am going to suggest a few things.

Put your iPod into Disk Mode

code:

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--> Disconnect the iPod from the Computer
--> Press and Hold the Menu and Select buttons with only the slightest of pressure (too much can cancel out the keys)
--> When the Apple Logo appears (Or when the screen turns blank) Press and hold the Play/Pause and Select buttons

--> Your iPod should display a screen with a Check Mark saying Ok To Disconnect

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THANX SO MUCH! but thers another problem... weird this one, the "enable disk use" bit is ticked, but sort of in grey so i cnt click if u know wat i mean. i havent tried anythi else uve told me, coz i dunno if i need to untick this first, but thanx

any1 tell me how i can untick this?

Screenshot is from iTunes v4.6 but you will still get the idea.



If you have manually manage songs and playlists selected then enable disk use is checked and disabled because it is needed for dragging and dropping to the iPod.

If you are using manual update then that is the reason the iPod is not unmounting after you have updated music because you need to right click the iPod and select Eject. If you do that and the iPod stays at do not disconnect but is not detected anywhere on your computer simply reset it by holding down the Menu and Select buttons together.

ive tried deleteing iPod_contol but instead it says F25 cant be deleted coz it has files in it

Go into iPod_Control\Music\F25 and delete all the files and try deleting iPod_Control again.

wen i delete it, the song comes back

edit: the file is corruped and is 0KB and doesnt play now, but orignally a song if this helps

Ok thats fine. Delete the rest of the folders F26 - F49 reboot the computer and try and delete F25. All else fails you can format the iPod by right clicking in my computer and selecting Format. It will only work if its a 30gb or less.

i formatted it, now thats all fixed it but wen i put more songs on we'll see if it starts doing it again. thanx loads matty

soz to douible post, but i wanted to put this straight at the top coz i badly need help. i forgot to disconnect the iPod by accident (sorry) and now this file with a explantion mark comes up, but the problem is i cant look at it, update it, resorte it, l beet it regonised on itunes, look at the ipod menu's, format it (its regonised by my PC, but wen u right click it, it jus makes the My Comuter window freeze ) or dissconnect it from my computer. : S wtf shud i do?

Edit: The iPod's been connected for a while now... about half and hour or so and out of knowhere, iTunes support came up. uit saidf that the a iPod was regonised, but it had no software, so use the iPod updater and restore it... which i tried but got upto inizalising, before giving up and freezing... what am i goin to do?

Unfortunatly as I said earlier the symptoms you were describing are sings of your iPod's HDD sieing. Here is what you can do.

code:

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--> Disconnect the iPod from the Computer
--> Press and Hold the Menu and Select buttons with only the slightest of pressure (too much can cancel out the keys)
--> When the Apple Logo appears (Or when the screen turns blank) Press and hold the Previous and Select buttons

--> You will see a screen saying
          IRAM PASS
          Press Play Cont

--> Press the Play button on your iPod
--> Using the Next Button, keep pressing it until you have Disk Mode highlighted (Note: there is 3 pages of diagnostic tests)

--> Once you have Disk Mode highlighted connect your iPod to your computer and press select

--> Your iPod should display the Do not Disconnect screen

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ive done that, but the iPod update still hasnt got past iniztlaising

Has it been saying Initializing this entire time without results? If so go ahead and run the HDD scan on it.

code:

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--> Disconnect the iPod from the Computer
--> Press and Hold the Menu and Select buttons with only the slightest of pressure (too much can cancel out the keys)
--> When the Apple Logo appears (Or when the screen turns blank) Press and hold the Previous and Select buttons

--> You will see a screen saying
          IRAM PASS
          Press Play Cont

--> Press the Play button on your iPod
--> Using the Next Button, keep pressing it until you have HDD Scan highlighted (Note: there is 3 pages of diagnostic tests)

--> Once you have HDD Scan highlighted connect your iPod to your AC Adapter (Power Adapter) and press select
--> You should see a screen saying
          HDD Scan
          Start . . . .

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its been stuck on:

HDD SCAN

START . . . .

For the last 10 mions really.... should it do this like? I've got roughly 100 - 200 songs on it before this all started to happene again

HDD Scans normally take about 2-3 hours to run as it checks the entire drive.

ah ok, i dont know how long it took (i forgot it was doin tbh, but i'll do uit again and time it if u want) but this is the results

HDD SCAN

END SCAN.
112
RD FAIL
SCAN NG

i started it around 1 o clock in the mornin last night. RD Fail doesnt sound good to me

Your HDD has failed in your iPod. RD Fail stands for Read Fail and Scan NG stands for Scan No Good.

Check this website for repairs through Apple: http://depot.info.apple.com/ipod/

ah fuck. ill go an apply now... thanx all the help matty