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MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 03:53 PM

this is a little trick to get around the file extention block on later versions of MSN Messenger:

http://www.patabugen.co.uk/articles/index.php?article=1

Any thoughts are welcomed :) (preferably on the site so everyone can see them)


No this is different to the other pathces.

Please read the article before commenting, im getting alot of useless comments =p
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by ShawnZ on 08-29-2005 at 04:03 PM

It only works on your computer, not to mention its much easier to just rename them. Hence patches are better.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 04:04 PM

its easier to rename them? How does that work? This means you only need to rename them once.

Like i said before, i know it only works on your computer i say that in the article. Please read the article before commenting.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by RaceProUK on 08-29-2005 at 04:13 PM

That trick will work on most computers, since they won't be aware of an exe2 extension.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by EvilSeph on 08-29-2005 at 04:26 PM

What's the point? Rename the program to something other than the file extensions blocked. Patches are better for this sort of thing and you're making people do more work than they need to.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by absorbation on 08-29-2005 at 04:28 PM

I like your effort and it's good to show your work :)

Very nice :)


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 04:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
Please read the article before commenting
quote:
Originally posted by From the article
some people i know havent had much luck with the cracks designed to unblock the blocked file extentions
EvilSeph, How did you manage to get the title "Posting Freak" when you dont read the posts?


quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Okay, so either your contact has to rename all your files, or you have to do it.

Yes but as it is i have to rename it, send it, then they rename it back and i rename it back to use it. This way i rename only the files i send on MSN and they still work without me renaming them back.

Absorbation >> thanks :)
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by RaceProUK on 08-29-2005 at 04:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
Please read the article before commenting
quote:
Originally posted by From the article
some people i know havent had much luck with the cracks designed to unblock the blocked file extentions
EvilSeph, How did you manage to get the title "Posting Freak" when you dont read the posts?
By posting over 750 posts.
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Millenium_edition on 08-29-2005 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
EvilSeph, How did you manage to get the title "Posting Freak" when you dont read the posts?
he did read the post, but if you don't seem to accept that you're just renaming the file... and there is absolutely no point whatsoever in adding that new file type to your folder options because it will only and only work on your computer.

==> evilseph is right, there is no point in doing all that, you're better off using patches, a RAR, ACE or even ZIP... and if that doesn't work you can get a free web account for hosting your files on http://www.freewebs.com (and note by raceprouk: you can use stuffplug too :) )

(sarcastic comment like you love them) did i just beat your article with miles?
oh and don't get me wrong, we appreciate your concern, but please don't make sarcastic comments when someone is putting facts on the table
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by CookieRevised on 08-29-2005 at 07:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
this is a little trick to get around the file extention block on later versions of MSN Messenger:

http://www.patabugen.co.uk/articles/index.php?article=1

Any thoughts are welcomed :) (preferably on the site so everyone can see them)
No this is different to the other pathces.

Please read the article before commenting, im getting alot of useless comments =p

1) This method is very dodgy and works only on YOUR OWN computer.

2) The file will not work on your contact's computer at all. In fact, your contact will seriously be confused on what to do with that extension.

3) Not all filenames you send are executables, thus not all filenames should be renamed to exe...

4) Since it involves renaming the executable, you might as well rename the file to something your contacts understand by simply adding something (so he can rename the file back with the correct extension) eg: "blahblah.exe.removethis"

5) Since it always involve an action to be taken prior to sending the file (renaming it to exe2), you might as well zip the file first. Archived files are not blocked _and_ are much smaller in filesize.


All in all: useless dodgy method...



Your blog/site has serious errors. When posting a comment it sends it 3 times. The voting system is also dodgy, as people may not select the appropiate vote when making a comment, and since 10 is the default setting this may be wrong and not reflect what the poster wanted. Make a seperate 'submit' button for that!
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 07:44 PM

Had you read the second paragraph of the article you would know that I have already mentioned it must be done on your contacts computer.
This method will work on your contacts computer 100% if they have done this.
The second paragraph also mentions other file types.

Yes renaming the file was what I used to do, the UNBLOCKER DID NOT WORK FOR ME STOP TELLING ME THAT ITS BETTER, doing it this way mean I do NOT need to rename the file more than I need to. I rename it once (or create it with the new extension in the first place) and then I can run it without renaming it back. The same for my contact who followed the article - and my friend who did not simply renames the file as they would have had I not followed the article.

Millenium_edition >>
Adding the new file type means I don’t need to rename it back to be able to run it. And NO I am NOT better of using the patch; if I had been better off using the patch then I wouldn’t have done this.

Lastly, I noticed the comments submitting it more than once, not sure where that’s coming form. I just made the script today so it’s a tad buggy.
The vote is separate from the form, ill try and make that more clear.

Not the most observant bunch of people here, it’s worthwhile to take some time looking at something and thinking about it before criticizing it.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Millenium_edition on 08-29-2005 at 08:00 PM

maybe you will notice that we have told you to just archive the file, which decreases file size... or you can just use stuffplug, which is not a patch...

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
Not the most observant bunch of people here, it’s worthwhile to take some time looking at something and thinking about it before criticizing it.
seems like you better didn't say that :wink: maybe you should open your eyes and read the rules before double posting too :rolleyes: now who's not observant, may I ask?
quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
one last thing, why is it dodgy?
because it is messing around with folder settings, and the "folder settings" part of windows was not meant to bypass file blocking in msn messenger. plus, you're adding useless registry keys which makes your system load slower for no particular reason.

another thing, if you were sure you were going to have criticism, why did you even bother posting it on a forum where people offer you a trillion solutions which are faster, more efficient and especially more user-friendly?

it's like saying "you can go around the stadion and then take the entrance" instead of taking the door in front of you which is *OMG WTF* the second exit.
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by brian on 08-29-2005 at 08:07 PM

This is totally stupid.  Your just simply making the files .exe2, you don't even need to add it to that list, or hence ever better, zip the file and send it.

Just for god sakes, don't think you are the best now, we know more than you, your simply changing the extention, plus when the file will arrive to the user, they'll receive .exe2 which wont run @ their computer.  Better off zipping it or using patch.

What you do on YOUR computer doesnt happen on the OTHER computer.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 08:15 PM

what other solution would you propose?

The kind of files i send are EXEs that i make, at the moment i have some options:

zipping it...
Make the exe, zip it (to be a few kb less, from about 30 to 28 since its compressed anyway, not much use since it takes longer to zip it than to transfer the extra few kb), send it, un zip it.
when i update it i have to replace the file in the zip.

or...

Rename the file to have a different extention, send it, they rename it back. i rename it back to use it. And i have to rename it everytime i update it.

or..

the infamous blocked file unblockers that firstly dosent work for me, and if you want me to get specific it also creates security holes in other places on your pc because it also stops the "are you sure you want to run this file" warnings in places.


Any other solutions (of the trillians avalable) id be happy to know about, i dont enjoy renaming files.)

StuffPlug does look good, but it also has a whole bunch of features i dont need/want.

No, i wasnt expecting all this pointless criticizm, if i was i wouldnt have posted it here.

Just because its no use to you dosent make it pointless or useless.

brian >> read the other posts you idiot, incase thats above you heres a run down:
-- Adding it to the list means you dont need to rename it back to .exe to use it.
--Yes your contact needs to add it to the list to be able to run it without renaming it.
--Zipping it takes longer than transfering the extra few kb.
--the patch didnt work for me. can you not read? i said it in caps as well incase it helps people understand it.

[b]Im not gonna reply to any more stupid comments, so dont bother making them (unless they are original and/or funny)[b]


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Millenium_edition on 08-29-2005 at 08:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
the infamous blocked file unblockers that firstly dosent work for me, and if you want me to get specific it also creates security holes in other places on your pc because it also stops the "are you sure you want to run this file" warnings in places.
do you even know what a security hole is? :lol:
quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
StuffPlug does look good, but it also has a whole bunch of features i dont need/want.
disable? :s
quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
Just because its no use to you dosent make it pointless or useless.
But because we have better methods, it is!
quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
Im not gonna reply to any more stupid comments, so dont bother making them (unless they are original and/or funny)
good :) glad we could help. have fun with stuffplug. feel free to post again if you need any more help.
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 08:24 PM

if you have a better method that works for me please tell me.

You did help, i now know that the messenger plus forums are a useless place for constructive criticism.

Im downloading StuffPlug now so ill see if i like it.

Oh and for future referance try this for a reply:

"Try StuffPlug, it does that too."

:)


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Millenium_edition on 08-29-2005 at 08:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
if you have a better method that works for me please tell me.

You did help, i now know that the messenger plus forums are a useless place for constructive criticism.

Im downloading StuffPlug now so ill see if i like it.

Oh and for future referance try this for a reply:

"Try StuffPlug, it does that too."

:)
maybe next time you could also ask, instead of just pasting a link to your site saying you "discovered" a new way? :)

do you really think people will provide other ways if you just post a "newly discovered" way? no. they will assume you have tried and you know the others.

anyway. this has gotten pointless.
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 08:29 PM

did i say newly discovered? or did i say discovered at all?
no i said this is another way, i didnt say it was better or worse  or quicker or slower, i never said anyone had to use it i never said anyone should use it i just said look this is a way.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by EvilSeph on 08-29-2005 at 08:39 PM

I've got one thing to say. We've been giving you constructive criticism but it seems you don't know how to take it.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 08:44 PM

So you telling me that doing this is pointless because of patches and that i should simply zip the file is constructive?

And everybody repeating it like parrots is even less constructive.

Telling me things i have already written about is no use to me either.

the most constructive reply iv recieved on this forum was that of Absorbation. Everyone else other than Millenium_editions small not about stuffplug has been useless. Nobody has said a way of improving the article, a better way to achieve the same result that i have not already mentioned. And yes thank you CookieRevised for the note about the script being a bit dodgy.

Otherwise theres alot more useless stuff than anything worthwhile.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Plik on 08-29-2005 at 08:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
the most constructive reply iv recieved on this forum was that of Absorbation.
No. that was the only reply that said good job, it was the least constructive one because it didnt tell you any errors and things to build on.
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by multimillion2k on 08-29-2005 at 09:20 PM

Patabugen, there is nothing wrong with your method - it works perfectly for your needs. However, it is also redundant as Stuffplug (which Millenium Edition mentioned in the first page) not only allows the transfer of *.exe files - it allows ANY file - without having to change anything. The reason others disapproved of your method is because it creates unnecessary work for you.

As you've stated, you're going to check stuffplug out and I hope it meets your needs.

I must apologise on behalf of everyone but you must understand that we do get a LOT of posts from people who shouldn't be using a computer at all. It does get a little frustrating sometimes, especially when they are determined to prove themselves right!


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Concord Dawn on 08-29-2005 at 09:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
the infamous blocked file unblockers that firstly dosent work for me, and if you want me to get specific it also creates security holes in other places on your pc because it also stops the "are you sure you want to run this file" warnings in places.

No it doesn't. Not if you're using an MSN patch, such as Apatch or MessPatch. Both these patches do not touch Windows, they only disable the extension block in MSN. Therefore, as long as you have common sense, they open no new security holes.

Also, might I ask why they don't work?
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 10:07 PM

I dont know why they dont work, it worked perfectly the first time but since then it started blocking them again and after both me and my friend reinstalled it still nothing.

Thats another thought about the extention blockers, i dont know it for a fact but dont both you and your contact need to have run it?  If so using a blocker is no better than my method since you need both people to run it for it to work at all, atleast with my method the file will transfer. Anyway...

Two questions if anyone knows the answer (mostly out of interest):
Does MSN check the extention of files being both sent and recieved, it wouldnt make sence to only check the sent one as a virus could simply disable it the same was most patches do.
If MSN does check recieved files are the blockers any use if only you use it? (which was so many peoples argument againt my method)


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by brian on 08-29-2005 at 10:22 PM

Yes, I'm an idiot. :-\

Unzipping will be way faster, because you won't go do all the crap, it's all automated, and it wont cause much trouble on the other side too, because XP has it's own built-in ZIP reader/extracter.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-29-2005 at 10:51 PM

if the other person has done this its similar to them doing the blocker patch thing, you do it once and dont have to worry about it again. its easier for the person recieving they just run the file.
My exe2 files can be run as is, no unzipping no renaming to send they work exatly like a .exe except they dont get blocked.
Its slightly less effort to use the patcher as you dont need to rename anything ever but it didnt work for me so i did it this way, if StuffPlug works (althought i have doubts it will work if the other person has not patched) better then ill use that either way i have a way i know works for me.

Zips work and are easy, but this is easier (for me atleast)


A little advantage iv just manage to find, when you recieve a .exe file you need to open my recieved files before you can open it, but exe2 you can launch straight by clicking on the link in the messenger window.
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by RaceProUK on 08-31-2005 at 09:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Patabugen
A little advantage iv just manage to find, when you recieve a .exe file you need to open my recieved files before you can open it, but exe2 you can launch straight by clicking on the link in the messenger window.
As you can with ZIP.
RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 08-31-2005 at 02:50 PM

i have already explained why i dont use ZIP's

and technically no, clicking the link opens the zip and you then open the EXE, it dosent load the EXE straight.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by RaceProUK on 08-31-2005 at 03:35 PM

So you basically can't be bothered to update a file in a ZIP archive? How lazy are you?
And there's a damn good reason you can't open EXEs from Messenger - malicious code! Have you thought about that?

At the end of the day, your method works, but it's complicated, hard for non-techies to understand, and just plain isn't the best way if doing it. I myself use SPNG to remove the file extension blocker, because I find it simple and easy to use - check one box, and you're done.


RE: MSN File Extention Block Avoider by Patabugen on 09-01-2005 at 02:56 AM

no its just quicker, you all keep telling me theres patches that do it easier than mine now your telling me im lazy for wanting to do it the easier way?

Yes theres a good reason they dont open automatically, the same reason they are blocked. You unblock them because your confident enough to know whats save to recieve and whats not, im confident enough (possibly ignorantly but thats my risk) to want to open them straight.

I do now have StuffPlug and am liking some of its other features, although i havent yet used the file transferness. (timestamps :))