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Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by _Humphreys on 09-23-2005 at 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Wired News
ONTARIO, Calif. (AP) -- A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter.
Shay Clark was expelled from Ontario Christian School on Thursday.
"Your family does not meet the policies of admission," Superintendent Leonard Stob wrote to Tina Clark, the girl's biological mother.
Stob wrote that school policy requires that at least one parent may not engage in practices "immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship," The Los Angeles Times reported in Friday's edition.
Stob could not be reached for comment by the newspaper. Shay and her parents said they won't fight the ruling.
School administrators learned of the parents' relationship this week after Shay was reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game, Tina Clark said.
Clark and her partner have been together 22 years and have two other daughters, ages 9 and 19.
I don't know what's the world coming too...I mean it's not as if the girl choose who brought her up.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by L. Coyote on 09-23-2005 at 12:48 PM
Horrible. I can't think of something else to say about it.
Edit: yes, that's a perfect example of Christian love. 
(it's my opinion, just PM me if it offends you)
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by paperless on 09-23-2005 at 01:21 PM
This is very stupid what the hell does she have to do with their parents? Its her not their parents in school.
Society is not prepared yet for this the children will be excluded by her friends and stuff...
Dont think im an homofobe because im not i think homo people should be able to marry and all that stuff but not adopt children, at least not yet.
I udnerstand that what should be solved here is the menatality of those people but it will take time and until then children will be the motive to laugh on their school maybe not ebcause of the director or something but by their colleagues.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Millenium_edition on 09-23-2005 at 02:29 PM
the government just got owned for allowing gay couples to have kids
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by JDawg_0789 on 09-23-2005 at 02:55 PM
I'm sorry, but that is horribly screwed up. I know it goes against Christian teachings to be in a homosexual relationship, but it isn't like the girl had the choice! I mean, for Christ's sake, my girlfriend is bisexual, and if someone did that to our kid, I would probably murder them. If that was done in America, it wouldn't be allowed because it would go against Constitutional rights. Just goes to show how corrupt the Church can be.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by SikStyles on 09-23-2005 at 03:39 PM
i think this has nothing to do with the school if your parents are gay/lesbians/transvestites
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Anubis on 09-23-2005 at 04:12 PM
I can understand where the school is coming from on this; but if the kid is happy in the school they should just try and turn a blind eye to it and ignore it as best as possible.
quote:Its likely that the school wouldn't care if the person has sexual interests in their same sex, as long as they aren't practising.
Originally posted by JDawg_0789
my girlfriend is bisexual, and if someone did that to our kid, I would probably murder them
Being Christian I can see the point of the school, but also as a Christian I wouldn't punish the kid for it. I personally have the opinion that being brought up in a homosexually parental household may not be a very good thing for the child as there are things that both sexes contribute to raising a child that just a single sex couldn't properly.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by _Humphreys on 09-23-2005 at 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by MC Inferno
well the school think's their "an aboimnation" vif they follow the bible. fuck God. he doesnt exsist anyway. and that does offend u, im not sorry, coz its ur own stupid fault for beliviong theres somethin up there. end of.
If you believe there is no 'god' or 'higher power' then that's ok but don't disrespect others beliefs.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by L. Coyote on 09-23-2005 at 04:35 PM
quote:I'm with you, minus the insults.
Originally posted by MC Inferno
and they relgion is tryin to help you, eh?
well the school think's their "an aboimnation" vif they follow the bible. fuck God. he doesnt exsist anyway. and that does offend u, im not sorry, coz its ur own stupid fault for beliviong theres somethin up there. end of.
There is no problem, it's people who make it an issue. Instead of living their own lives happily, they have to know who is what, who does what, and how they can blame the others because they're different.
Let people live, FFS. Try it, nothing will happen to the world. It'll keep spinning.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Negro_Joe on 09-23-2005 at 06:32 PM
the christian church has recently come to realize that homosexuality isnt a lifestyle choice, you are either are or not, its ok aslong as you dont particapate in you know relations.......i hate religion
And i agree it has nothing to do with the school because they disagree with the parents lifestyles doesnt mean they have to take it on the child....
this has really annoyed me now......
RE: RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Anubis on 09-23-2005 at 07:32 PM
quote:I can see by that post that you actually have no idea what you're argueing about. Just mindlessly insulting that you don't understand faith and religion at all, before you actually argue against something with no knowledge of it, at least look into it a bit more...tbh, I just feel sorry for you because you obviously can't argue properly or put any thought into your arguments without resorting to needless flaming.
Originally posted by MC Inferno
well the school think's their "an aboimnation" vif they follow the bible. fuck God. he doesnt exsist anyway. and that does offend u, im not sorry, coz its ur own stupid fault for beliviong theres somethin up there. end of.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Vazza on 09-23-2005 at 09:00 PM
What is the world coming to? What eventually is going to happen is that there is going to be all these different schools because (I am about to attack anyones beliefs here) of Religion, race, and what your parents are as well.
What a way to start another epidemic if you ask me. I mean, a kid can't decide their parents sexuality. So now there is a high possibility that the kid is going to be looked upon as a lepper so to speak. Then there is the psychological effects of such a thing happening to her. Of course, I suppose the effects well depend on how well the lass understands what being a lesbian means.
Okay fine, I can understand where the school is coming from, but personally myself, I don't believe in anything and I hope no one takes offence, but isn't it the girl who is being teached at the school and not the mother and her partner? Is there the assumption that because the family is raised by lesbians, that this is how the child will turn out because this is the norm for this child? What is the norm? For me there is no norm, because it's ever changing. Gays and lesbians are being given the right to adopt and why shouldn't they?
In this case, I sincerly hope that the school reconsiders, mainly for the the girls sake
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by user27089 on 09-23-2005 at 09:14 PM
Having my sister as a lesbian, I have had a lot of extreme views, if my school found out about her, they would be horrified. I think that the church should change their bigot views, but unfortunately, it will not happen unless there is a new pope. The current pope discriminates anybody that is gay/bisexual.
I feel sorry for the girl, it isn't her fault that her parents are lesbians, it isn't what she chose, and I doubt her parents chose that either. The school shouldn't discriminate the school for this, she should appeal to the governers, maybe even sue the school about this matter, heck I would if I was in that situation.
The church needs to bring itself into the modern world.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Negro_Joe on 09-23-2005 at 09:16 PM
quote:The pope cant change traditional catholic teachings, and they wouldnt due to how holy they are anyway...
Originally posted by traxor
it will not happen unless there is a new pope. The current pope discriminates anybody that is gay/bisexual.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Millenium_edition on 09-23-2005 at 09:20 PM
okay, so what if the school accepts the girl? right - she will be bullied to death because her parents are lesbians. especially since the parents of the other children in that school are all catholics too; it will just boost de bullying.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by DJeX on 09-23-2005 at 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Carltos Cool
I don't know what's the world coming too
I'm sorry, what did you say? It was a Christian school, a school that is part of God. That school goes by the Bible not by the way society and the world is today. In the Bible it says that gay's and lesbians are wrong, which in my opinion is correct. This school was only doing what they believed was the right thing.
It does seem a bit drastic to expell the student since she probably was going to that school because she is Christian and believes in God and the Bible.
I believe one of our rights is to be able to practice any religion we want with out any problems.
Any ways there are way more worse things in the world that the 'what is the world comming to' fits in better.
quote:
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
okay, so what if the school accepts the girl? right - she will be bullied to death because her parents are lesbians. especially since the parents of the other children in that school are all catholics too; it will just boost de bullying.
True.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by Anubis on 09-24-2005 at 07:28 AM
quote:First of all even if there is a new Pope it won't likely change a thing in that school because it's not a Catholic school. You've got to realise that the Pope is only the head of the Catholic Church, not the whole Christian church. Personally a lot of the information in the bible regarding homosexuality is from an extremely old era where God did have to lay the law down or everyone would just go do whatever (like in Exodus when Moses left the Jewish population for a few days and a load of them started worshiping stuff made out of gold and stuff). It would make sense for God to have to heavily lay the law down or things would get seriously out of hand.
Originally posted by traxor
I think that the church should change their bigot views, but unfortunately, it will not happen unless there is a new pope. The current pope discriminates anybody that is gay/bisexual.
Now that we're way on from that time the decision is whether we treat the rules as part of an old era where everyone had to follow a very strict set of rules to survive for years under harsh conditions. Or as a general guide for life. Also the fact that marriage is to be life giving. It's not an easy decision for any Christian church to make.
quote:Very easy to say that, but how can it adapt its teachings away from what is in the Bible. To be honest I'd need to look up more in the Bible about what it says about homosexuality to actually argue further. However I'd be very naive to say that something needs to be brought into the modern world without actually looking up what God had to say on the issue.
Originally posted by traxor
The church needs to bring itself into the modern world.
quote:First of all they aren't Catholics, they're Christian, the difference being they don't answer to the Pope (at least it seems so from looking at the school's website).
Originally posted by Millenium_edition
okay, so what if the school accepts the girl? right - she will be bullied to death because her parents are lesbians. especially since the parents of the other children in that school are all catholics too; it will just boost de bullying.
If the Children were true Christians they wouldn't actually bully the child but try to accept her as she can't be anyway responsible for her parents sexuality. However again, there's one moron in every crowd who would have to bully her.
RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by shine on 09-24-2005 at 10:03 AM
Its a Shame on that School, shame on management, Shame on Christianity, Shame on humanity..all in name of GOD..who is supposed to love everything.
* shine hate those who blindly follow religion (EDIT: Rephrased 
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RE: Girl excluded from school due to Parents Sexuality by _Humphreys on 09-24-2005 at 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by DJeX
I'm sorry, what did you say? It was a Christian school, a school that is part of God. That school goes by the Bible not by the way society and the world is today. In the Bible it says that gay's and lesbians are wrong, which in my opinion is correct. This school was only doing what they believed was the right thing.
I can see where you are coming from I am a Catholic and I know they forbid homosexuals and all but I mean what has the girl got to do with who is looking after her? Is it her fault she has her mother and her girlfriend as guardians...no.