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My new website by Yousef on 09-24-2005 at 08:49 AM

Hey, I just released a new version of my website.
http://www.msgweb.nl/

There's also an article about msgplus' sponsor program. I'm still busy with the downloads section.
I'd like to know what you think, and maybe you'd like to become a member :)


RE: My new website by user35870 on 09-24-2005 at 08:52 AM

Looks great! Much better than the old one (Y)


RE: My new website by M73A on 09-24-2005 at 08:57 AM

:| looks really good!!!

how you get that message bar thing:|:|:|:|


RE: My new website by -dt- on 09-24-2005 at 09:02 AM

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msgweb.nl%2Fen%2F

not valid xhtml

tis looks good though , a few weird things like a scrollbar and a few things overflowing out of thier divs. (see attachement)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20050923 Firefox/1.6a1 - Build ID: 2005092306


RE: My new website by Yousef on 09-24-2005 at 09:06 AM

I'll make it valid later this day, I developed it with all the standards in my mind. However I won't be able to make the message bar valid...
I'll check out the overflow stuff as well, thank you.

@M73A: Google for 'html marquee'


RE: My new website by -dt- on 09-24-2005 at 09:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Juzzi
I'll make it valid later this day, I developed it with all the standards in my mind. However I won't be able to make the message bar valid...
code a javascript one that uses a span.
(wouldnt be that hard)
then it will validate
RE: My new website by M73A on 09-24-2005 at 09:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Juzzi
M73A: Google for 'html marquee'


yea i know how to marquee 8-) thats not what i ment:P i meant ppl leaving a message and it showing in that space....

give me some credit!

i take it its php after looking at the site a bit?... oh well i havent got round to trying to learn php yet 8-)
RE: My new website by Yousef on 09-24-2005 at 02:06 PM

Sure it's php, just a small script I created :)


RE: My new website by hmaster on 09-24-2005 at 02:12 PM

Really nice site (Y)
For the scrollbar i think you need overflow:auto;

Erm I have a cool way of getting the marquee to bypass the validation
If you go here [ http://hmaster.techmonkey.co.nz ] and click valid xhtml
it appears valid although it has a marquee. Its basically ignoring it!

Not sure if it works with html aswell as xhtml but let me know if you want to know how to do it :)


RE: My new website by Yousef on 09-24-2005 at 02:35 PM

Hmm I could do document.write, I'll think about it, thanks.

I just did a sitescore test at www.silktide.com:
Marketing    How well marketed, and popular the website is.    8.3
Design    How well designed and built the website is.    9.8
Accessibility    How accessible the website is, particularly to those with disabilities.    10.0
Experience    How satisfying the website is likely to be.    9.8
Visitor rating    Average user rating for this site's design (website needs more votes)    No votes
(Vote for this site)
Overall    Summary score for this website.    8.5
no negative stuff or whatsoever

Not bad I think :)


RE: My new website by tony on 09-24-2005 at 02:42 PM

nice forum theme (Y) the colors are really great :)


RE: My new website by ShawnZ on 09-24-2005 at 02:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hmaster
overflow:auto;

No, that will show a scrollbar. Instead you need overflow:hidden to disable scrollbars.

RE: My new website by Yousef on 09-24-2005 at 03:01 PM

It should be fixed now, I changed overflow-y:hidden to overflow:hidden ;)


RE: My new website by hmaster on 09-24-2005 at 03:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by hmaster
overflow:auto;
No, that will show a scrollbar. Instead you need overflow:hidden to disable scrollbars.
True, but using auto should work too.

quote:
Originally posted by Juzzi
Hmm I could do document.write, I'll think about it, thanks.
I used:
code:
inc_syndicate_js =
'<marquee direction="left" height="20px" loop="30" scrollamount="2" scrolldelay="2" behavior="slide">'
+ 'New site now up!'
+ '</marquee>';

// end_var_declaration
document.write(inc_syndicate_js);
And then in the webpage I used
code:
<div id="marquee"><script type="text/javascript" src="marquee.js"></script> </div>

RE: My new website by Yousef on 09-24-2005 at 03:23 PM

Yes I've seen what you did. Anyway, your page validates now, but officially it isn't 'valid'. But thanks, I'll probably use your method, back ontopic ;)


RE: My new website by _Humphreys on 09-24-2005 at 03:35 PM

I remember your site...someone fake emailed me from it. ¬_¬ I saw the new design and I really like it. Keep up the good work.


RE: My new website by -dt- on 09-24-2005 at 03:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hmaster
I used:

    code:inc_syndicate_js =
    '<marquee direction="left" height="20px" loop="30" scrollamount="2" scrolldelay="2" behavior="slide">'
    + 'New site now up!'
    + '</marquee>';

    // end_var_declaration
    document.write(inc_syndicate_js);


And then in the webpage I used

    code:
    <script type="text/javascript" src="marquee.js"></script>



OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
document.write = evil! it should never be used in xhtml docs since it can presume it needs to write to a new document and clear your page then start writing.


use something like

code:
var m =document.getElementById('marquee');

inc_syndicate_js =
'<marquee direction="left" height="20px" loop="30" scrollamount="2" scrolldelay="2" behavior="slide">'
+ 'New site now up!'
+ '</marquee>';

// end_var_declaration
m.innerHTML = inc_syndicate_js;


to insert the maquee into the div.
RE: My new website by hmaster on 09-24-2005 at 03:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
code:
code:
var m =document.getElementById('marquee');
to insert the maquee into the div.
Why, the other way works fine, its not document.write its basically like include()

RE: My new website by -dt- on 09-24-2005 at 03:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hmaster
quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
code:
code:
var m =document.getElementById('marquee');
to insert the maquee into the div.

Why, the other way works fine, its not document.write its basically like include()
IT IS DOCUMENT.WRITE LOOK AT YOUR CODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

innerHTML is alot better way then document.write , document.write is stupid we have a DOM for a reson people , by using document.write your basicly saying "hey i sure as hell dont care for the DOM so lets write random crap to it and hope it parses it right"
another better way (a WAY better way) would be a full DOM approch with
code:
var orginalElement =document.getElementById('marquee');
var mElement = document.createElement('marquee');
mElement.setAttribute('direction','left');
mElement.setAttribute('style','height:20px');
mElement.setAttribute('loop','30');
mElement.setAttribute('scrollamount','2');
mElement.setAttribute('behavior','slide');
orignalElement.appendChild(mElement);


also YOUR DOCUMENT ISNT XHTML VALID if you cheat like this (thats what your doing is cheating the checker)

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq#docwrite
http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1091626816&count=1
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html
RE: My new website by Yousef on 09-24-2005 at 04:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
also YOUR DOCUMENT ISNT XHTML VALID if you cheat like this (thats what your doing is cheating the checker)
That's what I said. But ehm, can someone split this thread :P?