i did quite a bit of googleing, but i can't find it in simple english, it always has words i don't understand or it just doesn't make sense

could someone xplain it to me so i could understand?

Theory of motion and energy developed by Albert Einstein in the 20th century.

edit: also look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_relativity

lol, I think he wanted an actual explanation. Nice try though. (edit: oh you edited your post )


PS. I'm having a search at the moment to see if i can find anything reasonably understandable.

I believe it is:

When you go as fast as light you transform into light yourself

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The faster you go the slower time goes



But I'm not sure

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When you go as fast as light you transform into light yourself

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The faster you go the slower time goes

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Basically what Ezra said...

If you stand still, then time goes faster... Whereas, when you're travelling, the faster you're going, the slower time is going itself...

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When you go as fast as light you transform into light yourself

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The faster you go the slower time goes

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So that basicly means that interstellar spacetravel is not practical

Cause when you want to go to another galaxy you need to go VERY fast say 0.99 the speed of light (not 1 times cause then you transform into light ), But that causes the time to slow down for you, and thus from you perspective speed up time on earth, meaning when you come back, you aged not so much, but earth is centuries further

EDIT: also another thing I thougt about...

Speed is relative to the time it takes you to cover an amount of distance.

But because when you go very fast, time slows down, means it takes you the same time to cover a certain distance.

But again, that's something I thought would be the case, and not even sure if it's true
Let's call that "Ezra's theory of relativity "

You don't transform into light if you go the speed of light. (You'll turn yourself into a black hole though)

wasnt the theory of relativity that when you sit in a room with a hot chick an hour seems like a second and when you sit on a hot stove a second seems like an hour

im not sure though.

i think its a about speed mainly,

for example, your on a train, you see the scenery woosh past, you think your going fast, but related to the spinning of the globe your not..

this is me trying to sound clever, i read this somwhere i think its wrong but you get the idea...

After reading some,

I believe the theory is, that when say you travel with in a car that's going 50 mph, another car passes also going 50 mph, it seems that the car is going 100mph. BUT when going almost the speed of light this is not the case...

Say you travel in your spaceship with 0.99 the speed of light and another spaceship passes also going 0.99, it still looks like it's going 0.99

Then what was what I said before?

There are two theories of relativity: special and general. I doubt you want the general one explained because it is vastly complicated and reserved for PhD level research only. There are two parts to the special theory of relativity:
1. That, in a vacuum, the speed of light is constant no matter your frame of reference, the inertia of the observers or the velocity of the object emitting the light.
2. Basically that the laws of physics do not depend on the state of inertial motion.

The theory is basically E = mc². That's the widely known usage, to be physically correct it is: (delta)E = c²(delta)m. The change in energy is equal to the speed of light squared multiplied by the change in mass.

That's the fundamental, underlying stuff about it. That was basically me reciting what I remembered from my uni textbook. Heh.

Of course the effects of this theory are more widely known, i.e. the faster you travel the slower time goes, so if you travel really fast you age slower.

A small expansion to tantalise everyone:
Theoretically, purely as a mathematical construct, one thing can travel faster than the speed of light.
Imagine you have a donkey equidistant from two bales of hay that are exactly the same, EXACTLY the same... which bale does the donkey choose?
That's the analogy, and it forms a perfect symmetry. When that symmetry is broken (where such a symmetry exists) a particle called a tachyon is created and emitted, which travels faster than light.

technicly you wouldn't see the other spaceship, it passes by too fast

but y is it the 50+50=100 and 0.99+0.99=0.99?

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but y is it the 50+50=100 and 0.99+0.99=0.99?

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And other thing: Some scientist managed to slow down light to 17 meters per second, and also stop it momentarily

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And other thing: Some scientist managed to slow down light to 17 meters per second, and also stop it momentaraly

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And what Time said can be read at wikipedia, but we wanted it explained for the people that don't understand that

And other thing: Some scientist managed to slow down light to 17 meters per second, and also stop it momentarily

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Which is why we say that c is the speed of light in a vacuum. It's ever so slightly slower in normal air than it is in a vacuum (but so inperceptibly so that we can just use c in most of our calculations...).

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if two cars approach each other from opposite directions, each travelling at a speed of 50 kilometres per hour (31 miles per hour), one expects that each car will perceive the other as approaching at a combined speed of 50 + 50 = 100 km/h (62 mph) to a very high degree of accuracy.

At velocities at or approaching the speed of light, however, it becomes clear from experimental results that this rule does not apply. Two spaceships approaching each other, each travelling at 90% the speed of light relative to some third observer between them, do not perceive each other as approaching at 90% + 90% = 180% the speed of light; instead they each perceive the other as approaching at slightly less than 99.5% the speed of light.

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Not that we would see the spaceship, because our eyes don't even capture images that fast.

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Not that we would see the spaceship, because our eyes don't even capture images that fast.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity_for_beginners

That one might help, though it still isn't very easy.

I saw a nice documentary about Einstein a week ago. Everything was explained quite clear, except the most important thing: 'Spacetime'. There was a nice animation though showing mercurius & the sun and some kind of spacetime-grid...

Edit: it looked someting like this:

Our science teacher had a thing on tape from a TV program basically about Einstein's E=mc2...  It branched off into many other scientists that aided in all the basics of the equation. A few of the ways they portrayed it on the video were.

Einstein and his wife were sitting on a bench next to a river. Watching a small boat with a woman on it go by. From where Einstein was sitting, it looked as if the waves were traveling faster than the boat and that there was more than one.    From the lady riding the boats perspective, it was a single wave, that was motionless because it traveled the speed of the boat.

What they got outta that was basically, if they were to be in a car traveling the speed of light, they would see the waves of light moving alongside the car, which they proved untrue because no matter how fast your going, light is still going an equal speed away... Therefore you seem to be catching up to light, but you're just slowing down time.

From my understanding the only thing that can go faster than the speed of light, is light itself. Which makes little sense to me still... But I'm very interested in this... It's the only interesting thing in science as far as I'm concerened.

It got me to thinking if a black hole in space, is just a place where the light cannot escape the gravitational forces... if we were to make something (ourselves or something else) go faster than light itself, we'd disappear?


To tell you the truth *again*... I don't like science much at all.... except for things that we can't completely explain... such as this.



EDIT: Although now I know I'm not even near completely correct... I found  website on the television program my teacher showed us. Take a look at it here!

i was watching "how william shatner changed the world" on sunday, thats where i got the eholr idea about this. It said that you might be able to travel fasteer than light. It was something like removing space infront of you, and putting it behind you, didn't really make much sense tho...

and like qgrossel, this is one of the few things in science i'm intersted in

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It said that you might be able to travel faster than light. It was something like removing space infront of you, and putting it behind you, didn't really make much sense tho...

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This is one of the articles of the website I showed at the end of my previous post. This explains my boat theory much better .... haha... It's like the same thing.... Except I think I might've been backwards?

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Imagine a police officer chasing after a speeding motorist. If he drives fast enough, the officer knows that he can catch the motorist. Anyone who has ever gotten a ticket for speeding knows that. But if we now replace the speeding motorist with a light beam, and an observer witnesses the whole thing, then the observer concludes that the officer is speeding just behind the light beam, traveling almost as fast as light. We are confident that the officer knows he is traveling neck and neck with the light beam.

But later, when we interview him, we hear a strange tale. He claims that instead of riding alongside the light beam as we just witnessed, it sped away from him, leaving him in the dust. He says that no matter how much he gunned his engines, the light beam sped away at precisely the same velocity. In fact, he swears that he could not even make a dent in catching up to the light beam. No matter how fast he traveled, the light beam traveled away from him at the speed of light, as if he were stationary instead of speeding in a police car.

But when you insist that you saw the police officer speeding neck and neck with the light beam, within a hairsbreadth of catching up to it, he says you are crazy; he never even got close. To Einstein, this was the central, nagging mystery: How was it possible for two people to see the same event in such totally different ways? If the speed of light was really a constant of nature, then how could a witness claim that the officer was neck and neck with the light beam, yet the officer swears that he never even got close?

Einstein had realized earlier that the Newtonian picture (where velocities can be added and subtracted) and the Maxwellian picture (where the speed of light was constant) were in total contradiction. Newtonian theory was a self-contained system, resting on a few assumptions. If only one of these assumptions were changed, it would unravel the entire theory in the same way that a loose thread can unravel a sweater. That thread would be Einstein's daydream of racing a light beam.

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Einstein then pushed further and made the next fateful leap. He wrote a small paper, almost a footnote, late in 1905 that would change world history. If meter sticks and clocks became distorted the faster you moved, then everything you can measure with meter sticks and clocks must also change, including matter and energy. In fact, matter and energy could change into each other. For example, Einstein could show that the mass of an object increased the faster it moved. (Its mass would in fact become infinite if you hit the speed of light—which is impossible, which proves the unattainability of the speed of light.) This meant that the energy of motion was somehow being transformed into increasing the mass of the object. Thus, matter and energy are interchangeable.

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From my understanding the only thing that can go faster than the speed of light, is light itself. Which makes little sense to me still... But I'm very interested in this... It's the only interesting thing in science as far as I'm concerened.

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From my understanding the only thing that can go faster than the speed of light, is light itself. Which makes little sense to me still... But I'm very interested in this... It's the only interesting thing in science as far as I'm concerened.

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The only thing that can travel faster than light is space. In a black hole space is being sucked in faster than light travels, so light itself cannot escape. Very simple explination.

Einstein also concluded that gravity was not a force but a warping of space and time. Light itself is susceptible to gravity.

Also as velocity increases so does mass. If velocity is at the speed of light then mass is infinate.

As velocity increases time relative to the person experiencing the velocity slows down. If velocity is at the speed of light then time relative to the observer stops.

Thus to reach the speed of light is impossible. Mass would be infinate and time would stop.

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Im in high school, and i live in mexico, here the science isnt very advance and in high school we dont learn this things, but i investigate myself, as far as i know E=mc2 means that any mass going to the square of the speed of light then it would transform into enrgy. about the black hole thingy, well if you go to speed of lght, nothing will actually happens to you, because the light itself travels at speed of light and nothing happens to it. now i think that einstein didnt knew the actual speed of light and he was just supposing that the speed of light is the quickest thing in the world. maybe as far as we know is the quickest thing but what about all the types of light that exist beside the visible light? also why would exactly the speed of light would make something to change, the speed is just the mesurement to know how much distance you travel in certain time. and as far as i know the black holes are formed when suns explode and die. nothing to do with speed of light. and for the spacetime, as far as i know it is like another dimension intead of having time and distance separeeted they are in just 1 dimension. and thats why einstein said that gravity isnt actually a force like newton said, it is a curve spacetime that the planet creates and also the sun and that makes the gravity. i saw that picture with spacetime grid too. but all of this is just an opinion of a 17 year old guy in mexico, i might be, very very wrong or very very right.

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if you go to speed of lght, nothing will actually happens to you, because the light itself travels at speed of light and nothing happens to it.

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The only thing that can travel faster than light is space. In a black hole space is being sucked in faster than light travels, so light itself cannot escape. Very simple explination.

Einstein also concluded that gravity was not a force but a warping of space and time. Light itself is susceptible to gravity.

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and as far as i know the black holes are formed when suns explode and die. nothing to do with speed of light. and for the spacetime, as far as i know it is like another dimension intead of having time and distance separeeted they are in just 1 dimension.

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wasnt the theory of relativity that when you sit in a room with a hot chick an hour seems like a second and when you sit on a hot stove a second seems like an hour

im not sure though.

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here the science isnt very advance and in high school we dont learn this things

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not really, it's not faster than the speed of light, it has a huge gravity, thats why light can't escape


i also wonder if there is something non-physical that can travel faster than light...

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E=mc2 means that any mass going to the square of the speed of light then it would transform into enrgy.

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I read a few days ago that some scientists said that black holes where objects that had a very large gravitational force, and it will end... giving off everything it sucked in an unrecognizable way.... i wonder how would it give light off again...

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E=mc2 means that any mass going to the square of the speed of light then it would transform into enrgy.

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<shawnz> ANY MASS GOING THE SQUARE OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT
<shawnz> (WHICH ISNT POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT TRAVELS AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS MASSLESS THINGS
<shawnz> (AND NOTHING GOES FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT EXCEPT THINGS THAT ALREADY ARE))
<shawnz> but no
<shawnz> _IF IT EVER DID_
<shawnz> it would magically turn into energy
<shawnz> no TYPE of energy
<shawnz> it just magically turns into 'energy'

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not really, it's not faster than the speed of light, it has a huge gravity, thats why light can't escape


i also wonder if there is something non-physical that can travel faster than light...

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And that gravity is pulling in the space around it faster than light travells. I said it was a simple explination .

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someone said that the you will never go fster than light, well how can u be so sure, light will always go at 300000 (dont remember how many 0) meters per second so i think if it has a finite speed and not an infinite speed then it can be rechable. how i dont know but it can be reachable. and for shownz that was making fun of me, @#%!& you, jk. but im really serious about what i said.

Ok i read this whole thing, and now i'm a lil dizzy

Now i'm not sure if it was said but one thing that has to be kept in ming is that the only reason why light goes the speed of light is because it has no mass - light is just a form of energy (photons - which have no mass - which are actually moving in a wave form which is called an electromagnetic wave). So anything with any mass, no matter how small will never go at the speed of light.

And like someone said, the faster you go the more energy you need .

The speed of light is the fastest possible speed. The reason is that, in order to accelerate an object, you need to use energy. The more massive (or "heavier") an object is, then the more energy it takes to accelerate it.  As an object moves faster, it appears to gain mass (or become heavier). We don't notice this in everyday life, because this effect really only becomes noticeable when you get very close to the speed of light, but scientists have measured and verified this theory in laboratory experiments. In fact, if an object gets very very close to the speed of light, it's mass goes up so fast that it can seem to be infinitely heavy! At this point, it is impossible to gain enough energy to accelerate the object any further.

And here's a twist to that theory! If 2 photons emitts from the same source, are not their speed, compared to each other, twice the light speed ? (In other words say a photon - in motion - releases another photon)

Simply put, No! This is a very strange thing about special relativity. Einstein's theory states that, no matter whether you are moving or standing still, light always moves at the speed of light. So, if you were on one photon and looking at the other photon, it would appear to be moving at the speed of light.

Mathematically, the ideas behind special relativity are very simple, and can be understood with basic algebra. However, a physicalunderstanding of what special relativity means is very difficult to achieve. I'm still not certain that I truly understand it; I just accept it as true (since repeated experiments show these theories are true).

So yea, here's my input on it

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The only thing that can travel faster than light is space. In a black hole space is being sucked in faster than light travels, so light itself cannot escape. Very simple explination.

Einstein also concluded that gravity was not a force but a warping of space and time. Light itself is susceptible to gravity.

Also as velocity increases so does mass. If velocity is at the speed of light then mass is infinate.

As velocity increases time relative to the person experiencing the velocity slows down. If velocity is at the speed of light then time relative to the observer stops.

Thus to reach the speed of light is impossible. Mass would be infinate (of the object travaling at the speed of light) and time would stop (from the point of view of the observer).

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I read a few days ago that some scientists said that black holes where objects that had a very large gravitational force, and it will end... giving off everything it sucked in an unrecognizable way.... i wonder how would it give light off again...

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They arent objects... and they don't give everything in it back out either

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But anyways... I don't think it really bends... and sucked into the hole... if the force of gravity in a black hole is too great for a beam of light to escape... would it stand still?

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Its also possible to slow the speed of light. Light travels slower according to what it has to go through. For example light going through air is faster then light going through water. So if someone can find a really THICK material, then they can slow the speed of light. For example you can be in a room and walk out of it, then go outside and look through the material and you can see yourself still in it.

Another dodgy example: Let's say im standing here, while cookierevised is traveling at *almost* the speed of light (). Now let's say that Tasha and Calvin are standing still in my point of view and then they both jump at the same time. I, of course, see that they jumped at the same time (because we are in the same reference), while cookie, who's traveling almost at the speed of light, sees that they jumped at different times .

Also i think its possible to see in the past.

If you look at a certain position and go faster then the speed of light, you will see things that happened before ( but in reverse).

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It is impossible to go beond the speed of light because it would require an infinate amount of energy (or somthing like that).

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and it also covers "The faster you go the slower time goes".

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wasnt the theory of relativity that when you sit in a room with a hot chick an hour seems like a second and when you sit on a hot stove a second seems like an hour

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You don't transform into light if you go the speed of light. (You'll turn yourself into a black hole though)

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The only thing that can travel faster than light is space. In a black hole space is being sucked in faster than light travels, so light itself cannot escape. Very simple explination.

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They are objects. Only objects with an extremely great mass (and because of that extremely small... they think). Black holes aren't all the same either, some have a greater mass than others.

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Black holes not only absorb matter, they also emit stuff.

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Also, if the force of gravity in an object is too great for a beam of light to escape we (thus the observers) would see only blackness and call that object a black hole.

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They are objects. Only objects with an extremely great mass (and because of that extremely small... they think). Black holes aren't all the same either, some have a greater mass than others.

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O.o
Their mass is the mass of the helium remaining from nuclear combustion !!! The gravitational force comes from their negligible volume and high mass.

They think ??? Who think ?? Do you mean i think

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Black holes not only absorb matter, they also emit stuff.

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Wasnt that a huge controversy !!! Stephen Hawking was wrong and no one figured it out for what ... 40 odd years ??

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The only thing that can travel faster than light is space. In a black hole space is being sucked in faster than light travels, so light itself cannot escape. Very simple explination.

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Underlord, thats not true. I could explain if anyone wants to know ...

When a star burns normally there are two forces acting upon it, its high gravitational force acting inward (high because ..... it holds the whole planetary system together dont they) and the force due to contunious nuclear fusion (which acts outward)

It is the magnitude at of these forces that determines the size of the star at any instant. It remains like this for say a few kazillon years

Then eventually its low on fuel (hydrogen), it swells up for a few millenia (short time for starts pfft ) cause the outward force due to nuclear fusion decreases due to a lower combustion rate. Then it runs out of hydrogen and its screwed cause it still has the same gravitational force but the outward force is zero. Thus it shrinks but as it does, its mass it still constant but its volume tends to zero
Density = Mass / Volume

Thus it has infinite density and thus infinite gravitational force. Thus not even light can excape it

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Since light has no mass how can it be trapped by the gravitational pull of a black hole?

Newton thought that only objects with mass could produce a gravitational force on each other. Applying Newton's theory of gravity, one would conclude that since light has no mass, the force of gravity couldn't affect it. Einstein discovered that the situation is a bit more complicated than that. First he discovered that gravity is produced by a curved space-time. Then Einstein theorized that the mass and radius of an object (its compactness) actually curves space-time. Mass is linked to space in a way that physicists today still do not completely understand. However, we know that the stronger the gravitational field of an object, the more the space around the object is curved. In other words, straight lines are no longer straight if exposed to a strong gravitational field; instead, they are curved. Since light ordinarily travels on a straight-line path, light follows a curved path if it passes through a strong gravitational field. This is what is meant by "curved space," and this is why light becomes trapped in a black hole.

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The biggest problem with defining things like black holes is that there is no true way to measure it and test to see where everything that is taken into a black hole ends up. For all we know, everything that goes into a black hole ends up in another dimension. Until we are able to travel into a black hole and come back out without being destroyed or lost forever, we will never truly know what happens when something enters a black hole.

The reason that a black hole is "black" is because of the lack of light allowed to be maintained in the area. It has no true color, but we (humans) visualize black as the absence of light and color.

As for the speed of light, there are many theories that may or may not apply. Again, the biggest problem is the lack of a proper ability to test those theories. For all we know, there could be a way to circumvent the speed of light by "stepping" out of this dimension/reality/whatever at one point and "stepping" back in at another. Though I read about the theory in a sci-fi novel (Orson Scott Card's Children of the Mind) I think it's something that is entirely possible given the nature of the cosmos as we know it (if you want a more detailed explaination, let me know or check out the book for yourself).

I'll stop there for now because my head hurts and I could ramble on about this subject for hours.

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Everything isn't black and white.

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One thing to dispute here: black holes are NOT objects.
In the loosest possible terms a black hole is a region of space that has so much mass concentrated in it that there is no way for a nearby object to escape its gravitational pull. Basically this mass concentration has an escape velocity greater than c, so not even light can escape. The idea of such a mass concentration that even light could not escape from originates with Laplace in the 18th century, then straight after Einstein's theory of special relativity Karl Schwarzschild managed some hypothetical solutions to the equations that described such an object. It wasn't until the 1930s that people thought "wow, these things might actually exist" - Oppenheimer, Volkoff, Snyder were the main researchers. They showed that when a sufficiently massive star runs out of fuel, it is unable to support itself against its own gravitational pull, and it should collapse into a black hole. That's as far as you can take it with special relativity, to advance you have to consider general relativity (the harder version).
In general relativity, gravity is a manifestation of the curvature of spacetime. Massive objects distort space and time, so that the usual rules of geometry don't apply anymore. Near a black hole, this distortion of space is extremely severe and causes black holes to have some very strange properties. In particular, a black hole has something called an 'event horizon.' This is a spherical surface that marks the boundary of the black hole. You can pass in through the horizon, but you can't get back out. In fact, once you've crossed the horizon, you're doomed to move inexorably closer and closer to the 'singularity' at the center of the black hole.
It is this singularity that is, in essence, the black hole. At the singularity our laws of physics no longer apply, the singularity cannot be considered an object at all. In conclusion a black hole consists of this singularity and the event horizon... a region of space. Not an object. Even the event horizon is not as well defined as you would think, due to Hawking's solution of the Black Hole Information paradox.
A note on what is emitted from a black hole: only one thing is emitted, Hawking radiation. The laws of quantum physics state (simplified ) that the information emitted, when a black hole evaporates, about the matter inside the black hole can never be completely wiped out. Hawking's 1976 black hole model (whereby a black hole starts losing mass as soon as it has formed via radiating energy) showed that the data was totally destroyed, thus creating the paradox. Hawking's argument was that the intense gravitational fields of black holes somehow unravel the laws of quantum physics. In essence, Hawking's new black holes now never quite become the kind that gobble up everything. Instead, they keep emitting radiation for a long time, and eventually open up to reveal the information within. They also, unlike classic black holes, do not have a well-defined event horizon that hides everything within them from the outside world. Hence the nont-well-defined event horizon. This is the only emission from a black hole.
There are two indirect ways to detect black holes: x-ray binary systems and mass measurements on the centres of galaxies.

Edit: There is a further solution to black holes via string theory but it's hella complicated and I don't have the patience to explain it.

Ok, going into a bit more detail now

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One thing to dispute here: black holes are NOT objects.
In the loosest possible terms a black hole is a region of space that has so much mass concentrated in it that there is no way for a nearby object to escape its gravitational pull.
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At the singularity our laws of physics no longer apply, the singularity cannot be considered an object at all.

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They showed that when a sufficiently massive star runs out of fuel, it is unable to support itself against its own gravitational pull, and it should collapse into a black hole.

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In particular, a black hole has something called an 'event horizon.' This is a spherical surface that marks the boundary of the black hole. You can pass in through the horizon, but you can't get back out. In fact, once you've crossed the horizon, you're doomed to move inexorably closer and closer to the 'singularity' at the center of the black hole.

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wasnt the theory of relativity that when you sit in a room with a hot chick an hour seems like a second and when you sit on a hot stove a second seems like an hour

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FFS. Dont spam in a serious thread.

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Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.

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Since the singularity has a mass it can be considered an object; a quantum mechanical object.

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They showed that when a sufficiently massive star runs out of fuel, it is unable to support itself against its own gravitational pull, and it should collapse into a black hole.

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Yes and no.

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Since the singularity has a mass it can be considered an object; a quantum mechanical object.

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No, it has infinte mass - beyond an object. Even the laws of quantum mechanics break down.

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They showed that when a sufficiently massive star runs out of fuel, it is unable to support itself against its own gravitational pull, and it should collapse into a black hole.

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Yes and no.

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Hence, "sufficiently massive". The limit above which they do is called the Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit.

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