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WANTED - experienced plugin developer by paul.kelly on 12-05-2005 at 09:39 AM

HI people.

I represent a company in Scotland, UK looking for a plugin to be developed for messenger. This will involve contract paid work and the remit is very specific.  I dont wish to advertise here cause I know its frowned upon so I'll save the details for anyone that wishes to contact me.

Should you wish to get more information and are interested in paid development work, please contact kswstudios@hotmail.com directly.

We are looking for this project to start immediately so those with a high degree of messenger plugin development experience get in touch with us.

Cheers guys. (and gals!)

Paul


RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by Ash_ on 12-05-2005 at 11:17 AM

What would you like the plugin to do, i think this will give the developers a reason to email you, if they can do what you ask.


RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by lordy on 12-05-2005 at 11:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ash_
What would you like the plugin to do, i think this will give the developers a reason to email you, if they can do what you ask.
quote:
Originally posted by paul.kelly
I dont wish to advertise here cause I know its frowned upon so I'll save the details for anyone that wishes to contact me.

RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by paul.kelly on 12-05-2005 at 11:38 AM

Thanks for the comments.  The plugin is required to help make the web safer for young children when using messenger; to assist in preventing online bullying and targeting of children by adult groomers. I cannot be any more specific than this at the moment but will require integration with an existing API developed in house which already integrates with our own online software. 

For full details of the project and development required, interested parties will be required to sign an NDA and may have to be disclosure checked prior to work commencing. These are mandatory conditions of employment under a contract with my company considering the sensitive nature of the data we hold.

What I can say is that we are looking for the plugin to  add options to messenger (both child and parent specific), control how messenger is used and to also integrate with our API. We will take care of the necessary permissions from Microsoft in order to create the functional code we require.

Sorry for being elusive on this - thats not my intention; but this project is part of a far bigger business! Thanks again for your interest.


RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by Ash_ on 12-05-2005 at 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by lordy16
quote:
Originally posted by Ash_
What would you like the plugin to do, i think this will give the developers a reason to email you, if they can do what you ask.
quote:
Originally posted by paul.kelly
I dont wish to advertise here cause I know its frowned upon so I'll save the details for anyone that wishes to contact me.



saying what kind of plugin you want made is not advertising? this comment was not needed.


quote:
Originally posted by paul.kelly

Sorry for being elusive on this - thats not my intention; but this project is part of a far bigger business! Thanks again for your interest.

i think i understand what you want, like code that searches text recieved and sent make sure no offensive words are sent, check images etc. This program is far beyond what i can code (with executable files), maybe some other devs will understand. sorry i couldnt help, goodluck though.
RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by paul.kelly on 12-05-2005 at 12:47 PM

No this is not the case Ash.

Scanning for images, text etc is not a requirment!

For full design spec, email me.
Thanks

Paul


RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by qgroessl on 12-05-2005 at 12:49 PM

Giving up their identity over MSN is voluntary.... They don't have to unless if they want to. And they probably lie about it when they sign up.... And if you'd some how get to their identity without them disclosing it, it would be an invasion of privacy.... EVEN THOUGH it is for a good cause.


RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by MeEtc on 12-05-2005 at 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by groessl35
Giving up their identity over MSN is voluntary.... They don't have to unless if they want to. And they probably lie about it when they sign up.... And if you'd some how get to their identity without them disclosing it, it would be an invasion of privacy.... EVEN THOUGH it is for a good cause.
I think this is exactly what paul.kelly wants to prevent, talking to anonomous contacts. If the parent doesn't know who the end user is, no chatting for the kiddieuntil the parent approves the contact. Maybe setting up a parental allow list?

Sorry paul, but I'm not much of a programmer yet. good luck though!
RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by CookieRevised on 12-05-2005 at 03:21 PM

I think I understand what he wants. And it is doable. However, this requires far more than a simple MSN Messenger addon (note: a plugin for Messenger Plus! isn't what you want ;)). It also requires a whole parent controlled secured environment in Windows as people (children) could otherwise startup and use whatever they want and thus making the intended software and addon rather useless.

As said, a plugin for Messenger Plus! isn't what you want. It has far too many restrictions in what can be done. Such thing should be made as a direct MSN Messenger addon (or even better as a whole worksuite restricting access etc in Windows where MSN Messenger is just a part of it).

Also note that Microsoft itself is in process of developping something like that which involves digital passports. Experiments with this are done in countries which have digital (chipcard) passport IDs or which are in the process of replacing  the traditional passports with chipcards (eg: Belgium). The digital passports will be used as a means to identify over the net and to login in for example MSN Messenger.


RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by paul.kelly on 12-05-2005 at 05:25 PM

ok,

What we need is a plugin which will prevent children chatting to others unless the person with whom they are chatting has been identity verified.

The plugin we need developed should help parents keep tighter controls on who their children (especially young children) cha with.

If anyone is interested,..this is a serious offer of work to good experienced developers. Email me or send me an IM on kswstudios@hotmail.com (MSN address). For full detailled spec, serious developers will be required to sign a Non-Disclusure Agreement. Feel free to contact me directly should you be interested in this project.

Thanks people
Paul



quote:
Originally posted by groessl35
Giving up their identity over MSN is voluntary.... They don't have to unless if they want to. And they probably lie about it when they sign up.... And if you'd some how get to their identity without them disclosing it, it would be an invasion of privacy.... EVEN THOUGH it is for a good cause.

yes accepted.
Our systems do not do that! However anyone using MSN or AOL or Yahoo etc ect can be anyone they want to be.  I dont wish to get into a discussion about the rights and wrongs of it, merely that our systems already work and we wish to extend their functionality into MSN.
RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by Itsme-HcK on 12-06-2005 at 12:22 PM

Maybe it would be possible using the Bot Programmers Kit? That will make a hell of an installation, however. I'll see if I can do something like this. :)


RE: WANTED - experienced plugin developer by CookieRevised on 12-06-2005 at 12:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
Maybe it would be possible using the Bot Programmers Kit? That will make a hell of an installation, however. I'll see if I can do something like this. :)
nope it wont work....

As I explained in previous post, such a system requires a closed secured environment on top of MSN Messenger, not an addon for a plugin for an addon for an addon for MSN Messenger as that will not prevent people from not installing the <put the long addon for addon here> and not using it (and thus being able to talk to anyone).