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My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 01-04-2006 at 09:14 PM

hey all!

how you guys doing? I'm good! I've just finished my readaction about one of my theory. I don't know if you guys remember the question I asked once : If the best thing you have ever known, was the thing that hurts you the most, would you keep it, or let it go?

Well the thread ended up with a few problems.. but anyways.. i've worked on this question for two monthes.. and I finally think to have pulled it off.

I'm attaching the file here, plz take a look at it :)

You will need Acrobat Read which you can get here : Acrobat Reader

I'll be happy if you guys want to discuss this with me, I think my answer is quite logical and would love to get any feedback

It's still a first edition and I have tried making as much correction as I could so it could be clear and most of all, with no mistakes. so if you guys find some english errors, plz dont bitch me, but tell me the page and everything, and i will fix it as soon as possible

thank u all in advance :)

Truly yours!
Lp15

EDIT: Can't attach a .pdf.. but why? ^o)

Anyways, I uploaded it to my server, file HERE

SITE : http://www.theory.lp15.com

http://www.abounasr.ca/writing/the_best_thing_youve_ever_known.doc


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Lou on 01-04-2006 at 09:50 PM

there are two chapter two's

read part of it, but its too long.lol. Very good writing style though. I love it.

edit: read the ending. that is so horribly true. Ive known it since last week. Love your idea of taking this question and writing it down.


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Tasha on 01-04-2006 at 09:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lou_habs
there are two chapter two's


It's like, meant as to show that it's continuing on that page, I think.

I read the whole thing, and I must say it is one of the most wonderful pieces of written work I have read. Looking past the grammatical and English mistakes, it is an emotional piece of writing, that I can see you've put a lot of hard work into. It may not help everyone, if they chose to read it, but certainly areas of it have put some thoughts into my mind, and helped me make my mind up about something. :happy: So well done, and I hope a lot of people get to see this. :happy:
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 01-04-2006 at 10:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Tasha
   
quote:
Originally posted by by lou_habs

there are two chapter two's
It's like, meant as to show that it's continuing on that page, I think.

yes, i thought it just looked better that way, with like headers..

anyways.. thx for the comments tash :) And thanks for the little text u written, it will be added in the next edition.
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Voldemort on 01-05-2006 at 12:09 AM

ive read it and its good.. its very good, you should try to enter some contests... (i know you did it for urself, but try)...this will keep me thinking, im sure of it..


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 01-05-2006 at 03:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by damm-o
ive read it and its good.. its very good, you should try to enter some contests... (i know you did it for urself, but try)...this will keep me thinking, im sure of it..

Glad to hear it was good, for the contests, i will see.. once the final edition is made.
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by qgroessl on 01-05-2006 at 04:07 AM

I like it... makes me think a lot about things actually... I wanna know what the best thing I have ever known truely is... I really couldn't tell you off the top of my head..... But I am not very good at letting go of things... so I always choose to keep it till it goes away... So I agree with your answer!


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Lou on 01-05-2006 at 04:23 AM

well now, I haven't read it all but most of it, and I feel the need now to write something to you about it.

It's a very thought-out piece of work and there is alot of truth in it. It surprises me how much a simple question can confuse the hell out of me for ages, and yet, in the end, the answer seems so obvious that I wonder why I never thought of it before.

Your answer makes so much sense, yet anyone wouldn't have figured out the sense of it like that like you did. You honestly surprised me and yet confused me, all at once. It was great.

As for the contests....(y)


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by qgroessl on 01-05-2006 at 04:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lou_habs
As for the contests....(y)

Completely agreed there!... There seems to be some typos yet that you'd have to fix... near the end you have as one of the headings... the one about the "but's"... you have "The but.s.." or something like that.
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by ShawnZ on 01-05-2006 at 04:32 AM

  • quote:
    Now if you guys have gotten to the end of this document, this means you guys have agreed that the best
    thing you’ve known was chosen based on feelings. So what is really letting go?

    Isn't that mildly obvious? What else could it possibly be based on? :-/

    quote:
    Letting go would mean to let go of your feelings as well, to erase them.. But if you go up just a little, you’ll
    understand that you have also agreed to the fact that feelings are not controllable..

    Thats not true, think of smoking, you may love to smoke but you can also realize you need to get over it, and be successful aswell...

    quote:
    Therefore letting it go is not logical, seeing as you cannot control your feelings in order to change them, to let them go, so that this thing goes away.. Now.. What are you left with? You are left with answer a), which is to keep it..

    Why not just say that? It's not really necessary to go through that much just to bring something of that simple of thinking to light...

I like that you've thought hard about this... but this is fairly simple minded thinking, you haven't thought about how someone could want to lose something so much that their willpower overpowers their feeling for it, and you haven't thought of how people could eventually lose feeling for it either...
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 01-05-2006 at 04:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lou_habs
It surprises me how much a simple question can confuse the hell out of me for ages, and yet, in the end, the answer seems so obvious that I wonder why I never thought of it before.

As I told a lot of people who answered my question : "You guys only have a question, a couple of words assembled in a sentene. If you o t bed not knowing tonight, you won't suffocate. I got a situation, what the hell do I do now? "



quote:
Originally posted by groessl35
Completely agreed there!... There seems to be some typos yet that you'd have to fix... near the end you have as one of the headings... the one about the "but's"... you have "The but.s.." or something like that.

Im sure there are a lot of mistakes and everything. But i've written this in about 3 days non-stop, I go through these mistakes without even realizing them. I do have some friends who will help me correct the final edition though :)

RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by qgroessl on 01-05-2006 at 04:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Thats not true, think of smoking, you may love to smoke but you can also realize you need to get over it, and be successful aswell...

Find somebody that says smoking is the best thing that happened to them and I'll give you a dollar :p...
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by ShawnZ on 01-05-2006 at 04:44 AM

Also, the font is hard on the eyes presentation wise... and it's a little big... And, most of it is buzzwords and useless information, if you skipped to the points (yes, even including the important parts of each chapter) you could have easily made this a page and a half.


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by ShawnZ on 01-05-2006 at 04:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by groessl35
quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Thats not true, think of smoking, you may love to smoke but you can also realize you need to get over it, and be successful aswell...

Find somebody that says smoking is the best thing that happened to them and I'll give you a dollar :p...

Haha, if everyone hates it so much, why is it so hard for most people to quit? 8-)
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by qgroessl on 01-05-2006 at 04:46 AM

:p Nicotine... or however you spell it... trust me... When I did it... it was probably the worst thing I had ever done... I know it now... I knew it when I did it... I didn't like it one bit... just couldn't stop.


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 01-05-2006 at 04:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Isn't that mildly obvious? What else could it possibly be based on?

Hum.. I just. wanted to make it clear to everyone seeing as a lot of people answered they didn't know.. they just knew it was that thing

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Thats not true, think of smoking, you may love to smoke but you can also realize you need to get over it, and be successful aswell...

Then maybe it just isn't the best thing ?

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Why not just say that? It's not really necessary to go through that much just to bring something of that simple of thinking to light...

I wanted to make my ideas the clearest possible.


quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
I like that you've thought hard about this... but this is fairly simple minded thinking, you haven't thought about how someone could want to lose something so much that their willpower overpowers their feeling for it, and you haven't thought of how people could eventually lose feeling for it either...

You have a point here, some things are missing, and this i sactully why i am taking remarks and suggestions, people come with questions and I realize I may have forgotten little parts in there. It will be fixes as soon as possible.

But btw.. if that's thing is the best thing u known.. u dont wanna loose u.. u know u have to.. but u dont want to.. if u do want to.. it's not the best thing im afraid

For the second part, about loosing the feelings, I have the sensation u haven't read  the " but's " i suggest u too. Though I agree it's not clear enough, adn that a part should be added for that.



BTWWW.. how did u do to get this in text.. *dodgy.. I put it in pdf so ppl couldnt copy.. :(
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by ShawnZ on 01-05-2006 at 04:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by groessl35
:p Nicotine... or however you spell it... trust me... When I did it... it was probably the worst thing I had ever done... I know it now... I knew it when I did it... I didn't like it one bit... just couldn't stop.

Because you liked the feeling it gave you (not "you", your brain.) 8-)
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by ddunk on 01-05-2006 at 04:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lp15
BTWWW.. how did u do to get this in text.. *dodgy.. I put it in pdf so ppl couldnt copy.. (Smilie)

Acrobat 7.0 has a select option to select and copy text, not sure about previous versions.
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by ShawnZ on 01-05-2006 at 04:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lp15
it's not the best thing im afraid

If it has hurt you, your feeling for it either overpowers your hate (and therefore you don't want to lose it and have no reason to) or your hate overpowers your feeling (which will help you realize you need to lose it)

If you know you need to lose it but have too much feeling for it still, then you're on the right track, you just need to try as hard as you can to overcome your feelings (maybe smoking was a bad example, but you see my idea)
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by qgroessl on 01-05-2006 at 04:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
Because you liked the feeling it gave you (not "you", your brain.)

Not really... didn't give me much of a feeling at all... my head and my body made me want one any time I smelt cigarette smoke... If i'd see a pack just laying there i'd always be tempted to take some....

I've overcome it. I still get urges... But have been smoke free for about 7 months.


EDIT (after shawnz's post right before mine): Yes... I got the point :p... and yes you probably could've used a bit of a better example... but oh well.
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 01-05-2006 at 04:56 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ddunk
Acrobat 7.0 has a select option to select and copy text, not sure about previous versions.

:'(


quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
If you know you need to lose it but have too much feeling for it still, then you're on the right track, you just need to try as hard as you can to overcome your feelings (maybe smoking was a bad example, but you see my idea)

Totally agree.

And if it fades away then it's not the best thing youll ever know, just something u like most for a while.
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Lou on 01-05-2006 at 05:02 AM

Unfourtunately it does have a text select button [thanks for telling me. I didn't know]

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RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Moo on 01-05-2006 at 08:18 AM

Very good... made me think [which is hard to make me do]


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 01-05-2006 at 07:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Moo
Very good... made me think [which is hard to make me do]


thank you, I'm currently trying to set up a little site for it, nothing fency, just a guestbook for ppl to leave their comments.

EDIT : Done, http://theory.lp15.com
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Steel Froggy on 05-10-2007 at 04:53 AM

Oh no... I want to read it!
IT sounds like I missed out on a lot! Does anybody have a copy or something? The sites aren't working...

P.S. I swear I won't steal it... hahahaha


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Pyroteq on 05-10-2007 at 12:42 PM

Site's not working..


RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by Kenji on 05-10-2007 at 01:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Pyroteq
Site's not working..
The thread is over a year old...
RE: My Theory :: First Edition :) by albert on 05-10-2007 at 01:21 PM

I still have the website, probably will put it back up some time when I get back from school.

In the meanwhile, the theory is there :
edit : removed. let me know if you want to read it.