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MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by vk3xem on 01-08-2006 at 03:58 AM
ICQ has gone to shit since the stopped updating 2003b and I hate the GUI of Yahoo and AIM. GTalk's GUI is OK, but is still lacking many features and hardly anyone is on it.
I prefer MSN with Msg Plus! by far and if it could intergrate connections for the other IM's so I could keep in contact with all my friends I would drop the other's in a flash!
Would it be possible for Msg Plus! to be able to log into other IM services rather than running the crap they offer? I'm sure it would be a very popular feature and would make it one awsome IM package.
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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Chris4 on 01-08-2006 at 04:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by vk3xem
Would it be possible for Msg Plus! to be able to log into other IM services rather than running the crap they offer?
Are you saying you want Msg Plus! for another IM program?
Msg Plus! is only made for MSN Messenger and soon Windows Live Messenger. I don't think Patchou has any intentions of making Messenger Plus! for any other IM program.
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by NiteMare on 01-08-2006 at 04:04 AM
quote:no, he wants msg plus to conect to the other networks, like trillian
Originally posted by Chris4
Are you saying you want Msg Plus! for another IM program?
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Hank on 01-08-2006 at 04:13 AM
just tell him to Use trillian,,,,MSN will only talk with yahoo an vice versa if he wants a trillian like Program so he can talk to all Clients with the 1 Program he needs trillian Free or Trillian Pro or even Gaim for Windows or Miranda IM
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by NiteMare on 01-08-2006 at 04:15 AM
quote:yeah about that, is there any update on when this will be taking effect?
Originally posted by Animal
MSN will only talk with yahoo an vice versa
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Hank on 01-08-2006 at 04:20 AM
i havent got a clue as to when,, Maybe EvilSeph or TreKie may Know a bit more about this
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by vk3xem on 01-08-2006 at 05:35 AM
Thanks for the replies everyone. Yeh I just want to use one client and I reckon MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus! beat everything by far, including Trillian.
Maybe a plugin for Messenger Plus! would be the way to go? Wish I knew how to write one 
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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Hank on 01-08-2006 at 05:43 AM
a Plugin will never happen, you only want just the 1 Client, My Suggestion is to use Trillian Pro, or Even Miranda IM which does support all networks
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by TReKiE on 01-08-2006 at 05:46 AM
quote:No idea. The great gates at Redmond have yet to release any info. Proper interoptability takes time so I'm assuming [and hoping] that they're spending time implementing it right the first time. Although to be fair, they've already done it with Live Communcations Server and Office Communicator, so a lot of the design work should already be done...
Originally posted by Animal
i havent got a clue as to when,, Maybe EvilSeph or TreKie may Know a bit more about this
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Hank on 01-08-2006 at 05:54 AM
it should.. so its just a matter of time till its fully operational , whenever that'll be is anyones guess 
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by -dt- on 01-08-2006 at 07:09 AM
http://www.imtiger.com/
Imtiger adds support for AIM , ICQ into msn and im sure if you asked the guy who made it nicly he would add gtalk (should be easy since its just uses the jabber protocol)
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by CookieRevised on 01-08-2006 at 07:19 AM
quote:no, simply because Messenger Plus! is not a chat client. It is a features addon for an already existing chat client, it isn't a client, in any form, on its own.
Originally posted by vk3xem
Would it be possible for Msg Plus! to be able to log into other IM services rather than running the crap they offer? I'm sure it would be a very popular feature and would make it one awsome IM package.
quote:As for plugins, it is in theory possible but that would require a hell of a lot of very advanced programming and usage of workarounds and what not. Something you better do with a standalone addon (like the one -dt- has linked to) than with a plugin for an addon which only is initially made to add loose features.
Originally posted by vk3xem
Maybe a plugin for Messenger Plus! would be the way to go? Wish I knew how to write one
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Mentality on 01-08-2006 at 11:35 AM
People just need to register their emails through Microsoft Passport, weather it be gmail, Yahoo, AOL or w/e and they will work on MSN regardless. I've done it with gmail before now, and I got AOL and (obviously) Yahoo users on my contact list.
Just a case of lack of information or people just wanting to use other clients
quote:
Originally posted by Microsoft
Use an e-mail address you already have
You can use any existing e-mail address from any e-mail provider when you create your credentials for the Passport Network. Then you can use those credentials to sign in to any site on the Passport Network.quote:
Originally posted by Mentality
including MSN Messenger (WLM if your signed up)
To access e-mail at www.hotmail.com, you must use an MSN or Hotmail e-mail address, or an address associated with an MSN Personal Address.
Get Started Now
Source - From Passport Website
RE: RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by CookieRevised on 01-08-2006 at 12:00 PM
quote:That will simply make their email address a .NET passport, only useable on the MSN Messenger network. That will not make them able to use Yahoo, ICQ/AIM, whatever or connect the MSN Messenger network with these other networks...
Originally posted by Mentality
People just need to register their emails through Microsoft Passport, weather it be gmail, Yahoo, AOL or w/e and they will work on MSN regardless. I've done it with gmail before now, and I got AOL and (obviously) Yahoo users on my contact list.
Just a case of lack of information or people just wanting to use other clients
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Mentality on 01-08-2006 at 12:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
That will simply make their email address a .NET passport, only useable on the MSN Messenger network. That will not make them able to use Yahoo, ICQ/AIM, whatever or connect the MSN Messenger network with these other networks...
I know that, but the guy was asking about being able to use MSN and Plus! not the other ones. if people signed up their emails to .NET then they would be able to talk to people using MSN, they would obviously already be able to use their own clients I.E gTalk, AIM, Yahoo.
But I get the point you are trying to get across, it would still involve everybody (besides yahoo and apparantly AIM) using the same client, which I did make reference to.
quote:
Originally posted by Mentality
Just a case of lack of information or people just wanting to use other clients
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by CookieRevised on 01-08-2006 at 12:23 PM
The OP asks for integration between all networks. He's not asking his friends to switch networks.
You still need to use specific clients for specific networks. There is no cross-network protocol integration; people with only a Yahoo account are not able to talk to people with only an ICQ/AIM account which are not able to talk to people with only a Gmail chat account which are not able to talk to people with only an MSN acount etc...
I fail to see how signing up to the .NET network will suddenly make him able to use MSN Messenger with other networks. Signing up to the .NET network with whatever email will make that email address useable as an MSN account, nothing more, it will not make it suddenly useable for other networks too. Signing up to the .NET network will still need you to switch networks.
(although MSN and Yahoo have teamed up to make cross-network chatting possible in the far future without the need for a second Yahoo account if using MSN Messenger or without a second MSN account if using Yahoo chat)
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Mentality on 01-08-2006 at 12:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
The OP asks for integration between all networks. He's not asking his friends to switch networks.
I fail to see how signing up on the .NET network will suddenly make him able to use MSN Messenger with other networks.
I never said that it would, I simply implied that if people knew they could sign up to the .NET network without having to change their email address to an MSN/Hotmail account: - then intigration wouldn't have to be a point of call, I was simply offering other ideas/alternatives.
But again, like I said, people don't all want to use the same Client.
Just like they don't want, or are not able to use the same service.
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by CookieRevised on 01-08-2006 at 12:35 PM
quote:yes it will.... signing up to the .NET Network will not make integration any easier or whatever. There is absolutely no difference at all if you sign up or not with whatever email address you use. You still are using two very different networks.
Originally posted by Mentality
(...) without having to change their email address to an MSN/Hotmail account then intigration wouldn't have to be a point of call (...)
The only benefit signing up to the .NET network will have is that you don't need to create a specific hotmail email. But both accounts will still be very very different and both can only be used on the specific networks.
Thus, it is not an alternative at all, it's simply a convenient benefit that you can use any email address to sign up to the .NET network, you still need to use specific clients and specific accounts for the specific networks which the OP doesn't want.
The .NET passport is nothing more than a login name which coincidently is your email address; If I sign up to a website with the same login name than which I used on another website doesn't make both websites suddenly integrated or able to exchange info with eachother, both are still very different accounts without any integration between them at all, they just have the same login name
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Mentality on 01-08-2006 at 12:42 PM
I wasn't talking about integration, I never said by signing upto the .NET(work) that, that would be any form of intergration. Let alone make integration easier.
I was saying, if people signed up to the .NET (Microsoft Passport) Network then they would be able to be added to people's contact lists, but they themselves would still have to use the MSN client. (I maybe never made that part clear) unless they where using Yahoo (or apparantly AIM) where they wouldn't need to sign upto the network, or use the MSN client at all.
But I know that not everybody would be willing to do this, or they don't know that they could.
RE: RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by vk3xem on 01-08-2006 at 03:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
http://www.imtiger.com/
Imtiger adds support for AIM , ICQ into msn and im sure if you asked the guy who made it nicly he would add gtalk (should be easy since its just uses the jabber protocol)
Great stuff -dt-, That's exactly what I was after!
Now I have finally gotten rid of the dinasour ICQ 2003b
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Ezra on 01-08-2006 at 04:50 PM
Or use Gaim, that uses all the networks, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, Jabber(Gtalk), AIM
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by Voldemort on 01-08-2006 at 04:51 PM
Another option is trillian, tho i have not used it in a while
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by vincerooney on 01-08-2006 at 11:25 PM
i use trillian. a very reliable program i suggest everyone who loves instant messaging to get it. It saves having to download AIM onto my computer and still allows me to keep in touch with people who only have AIM as well as going online on different msn and yahoo accounts etc.
Reliable program too...i couldnt recommend it more.
(Realises he sounds like a sales man and a rubbish one at that...lowers his head in shame and climbs into bed)
RE: MSN - ICQ, Yahoo, AIM GTalk interconnection by aNILEator on 01-11-2006 at 02:28 PM
AIM/ICQ have supposedly joined forces with GTalk now also and will develop interoperability 
when AIMTriton is in final build (or so i hear) also Gtalk will add buddy icons 