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Computer Freezing at startup... by M73A on 01-15-2006 at 01:46 PM

my computer keeps freezing at startup...

its gets so far and then stops and to use it you have to goto task manager quit explorer.exe and run explorer.exe again...

im using it now to type this but i cant access the start menu and not everything has loaded up in the system tray as normal....

hmmm 10 minutes into start up and whilst im typing this its loaded a few fings and the start menu now works....

what would be causing the computer to do this?

im just about to start disabling loads of startup programs...

anything you can suggest?

EDIT:

heres my startup ... what can i disable? ive never seen the 2 microsoft things before... they might be doing something?
[img]>Click Below<[/img]


RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by brian on 01-15-2006 at 01:51 PM

Do you use a network that does not work?  Sometimes it takes a while as it's trying to connect to the network and is failing, then it keeps on retrying till about 10 minutes then leave all the processes come on.


RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by M73A on 01-15-2006 at 01:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nvez
Do you use a network that does not work?  Sometimes it takes a while as it's trying to connect to the network and is failing, then it keeps on retrying till about 10 minutes then leave all the processes come on.

it does connect to a network but it connects successfully.... ^o)
RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by CookieRevised on 01-15-2006 at 02:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by M73A
what would be causing the computer to do this?
You gave the solution yourself ;):
quote:
Originally posted by M73A
im just about to start disabling loads of startup programs...

Be very selective in what you load at startup. On the average computer, many stuff gets into those startup registry settings and startup menu's and stuff. Extremely many stuff of that is not needed at all, even despite what some software might say.

Also see "CookieRevised's reply to Slow Startup"... including the links provided in that post. Read everything carefully ;)

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Edit: (crop the image you've provided to only the important part, all the rest is useless and only takes up bandwidth. Not to mention the huge image distorts the thread layout)

As for what you can disable: You can disabled everything except
"AVG control center"
"MessengerPlus"
and maybe "Tablet Client Driver" (but, if it was a true driver it wouldn't be needed as a startup item, so I even doubt you need this too)

All the other stuff is in fact not needed at all and only simply sits there doing nothing. all the other stuff is not required to run windows or any tools you might have. Most of the stuff is simply for ""convenience"" (mind the strong quotes); stuff which is placed there by their manufactures in case you "might" wanna use the program; they are mostly absolutely not nessecairly.

But also note that what you showed is far from all the stuff which is started up when you boot up windows. There are many, extremely many, other places where stuff is automatically loaded. For a proper view of all this use AutoRuns, a program by SysInternals. More info on this can be found in the threads/links in the post I linked to at the beginning of this post..
RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by M73A on 01-15-2006 at 02:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by M73A
what would be causing the computer to do this?
You gave the solution yourself ;)

quote:
Originally posted by M73A
im just about to start disabling loads of startup programs...

Be very selective in what you load at startup. On the average computer, many stuff gets into those startup registry settings and startup menu's and stuff. Extremely many stuff of that is not needed at all.

Also see "CookieRevised's reply to Slow Startup"... including the links provided in that post. Read everything carefully ;)

hmm thanks cookie:P

what could you recommend disabling then? i think 'tuneup utilities 2006' shows all the stuff like autoruns from your posts *-)

EDIT:
virus scan didn't find anything
RE: RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by CookieRevised on 01-15-2006 at 11:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by M73A
what could you recommend disabling then?
See previous post

quote:
Originally posted by M73A
i think 'tuneup utilities 2006' shows all the stuff like autoruns from your posts *-)
no it doesn't...
RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by M73A on 01-15-2006 at 11:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
and maybe "Tablet Client Driver" (but, if it was a true driver it wouldn't be needed as a startup item, so I even doubt you need this too)

its the program that manages the hotspots on the tablet.. as far as i can tell

hmm.... im gonna download autoruns (Y)

thanks for the help cookie.

also the thing about the network slowing it down.... my other pc was COMPLETELY out of virtual memory, frozen, and just.... messed up (i didnt know this...) but if it was having trouble tallking to that which slowed it down then that would be fixed now :)

RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by kittymew on 01-16-2006 at 12:02 AM

I had a different solution but the problem was the same.kinna.When i am very lazy and shut my computer off incorrectly..by bang closing the lid right in the middle of programmes, Not shutting down the right way...my comp always would freeze when i would start up again on start up..so well..I try and not be lazy and shut my comp down correcty..though I still slip up sometimes.:P


RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by Hank on 01-16-2006 at 12:11 AM

just disable those programs Cookie suggests an all should be fine,


RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by rav0 on 01-16-2006 at 03:19 AM

The first four you shaold be able to disable, along with all the NVIDIA entries, Nero home and MOffice.

What is Tablet Client Driver? It looks a bit dodgy to me, but I don't know anything about it.


RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by Voldemort on 01-16-2006 at 03:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rav0
What is Tablet Client Driver? It looks a bit dodgy to me, but I don't know anything about it.

maybe his computer is a tablet pc.
RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by ShawnZ on 01-16-2006 at 10:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by damm-o
quote:
Originally posted by rav0
What is Tablet Client Driver? It looks a bit dodgy to me, but I don't know anything about it.

maybe his computer is a tablet pc.

If it were a desktop and you saw "Desktop client driver" would it make any difference?

quote:
Originally posted by M73A
anything you can suggest?

CPUIdle could be it, or possibly Nero Home. But yeah, you should try disabling everything. Nothing that is _ever_ in that list will _ever_ be needed.
RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by M73A on 01-16-2006 at 11:29 PM

its fixed now... i think it was the netowrk thing.. my other computer was DEAD... basically, it couldnt even show me the desktop... >.<

cpuidle montiors the cpu usage, its not that:P

the tablet client driver is form my graphics tablet!!! it has hotspots.... that thing loadsa the program that tells the computer what hotspot loads what program... :)

thanks for the help, its sorted now :D


RE: Computer Freezing at startup... by Timothy003 on 01-17-2006 at 12:38 AM

My computer used to have this problem where I can't run any .exe programs at the first 10 minutes or so from windows logon. I just turn off my DSL modem before i log on to prevent it from happening.